Could 2012 Incandescent Light Bulb Ban extend to Vacuum Tubes?

Dec 25, 2007 at 6:34 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 21

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Could it somehow extend to banning Vacuum Tubes due to some stupid interpretation of the law?

FAQ: The End of the Light Bulb as We Know It - US News and World Report

Will there be a NOS Incandescent Lightbulb market coming up?

Me, I personally like Solid State LED lighting.
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-Ed
 
Dec 25, 2007 at 6:42 PM Post #2 of 21
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Could it somehow extend to banning Vacuum Tubes due to some stupid interpretation of the law?

FAQ: The End of the Light Bulb as We Know It - US News and World Report

Will there be a NOS Incandescent Lightbulb market coming up?

Me, I personally like Solid State LED lighting.
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-Ed




Most people dont even know what a vacuum tube is. I doubt that anyone would make the connection. Moreover, tubes are not for lighting anyway so I dont see why you would make a connection.
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Dec 26, 2007 at 2:10 AM Post #3 of 21
They'll have to pry the incandescent lightbulbs ( and vac. tubes) from my cold, dead, hands...................anyway, I'm stocking up despite the hoaxsters
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Dec 26, 2007 at 2:42 AM Post #4 of 21
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Could it somehow extend to banning Vacuum Tubes due to some stupid interpretation of the law?


Only if your tubes use tungsten or thoriated tungsten filaments.
 
Dec 26, 2007 at 2:53 AM Post #5 of 21
There are a few you could read by or light up a room. Yes they will be banned. :^)
 
Dec 26, 2007 at 2:56 AM Post #6 of 21
Given the proportion of light bulbs used for lighting versus vacuum tubes used for their respective applications, I doubt there will be a problem.
 
Dec 26, 2007 at 5:24 AM Post #7 of 21
Maybe we'll become the new "underground" with our own code words for tubes and the sellers of tubes! We'll hide in our basements huddled around our tube amplifiers in the dark, hoping the "man" doesn't come crashing in the door to confiscate our tubes!
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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Dec 26, 2007 at 6:25 AM Post #10 of 21
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So how many Tube lovers here light up their listening rooms with incandescents vs. other types of lights?


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Geez, I don't know if it's my D-115 or the 300w halogen spots, but my listening room has been awfully toasty this winter.
 
Dec 26, 2007 at 7:14 AM Post #11 of 21
I don't think it will apply to tubes. Believe it or not, some are still used in linear amps for commercial radio applications. And the CRT (which is a tube) may be in its death throes, but will still exist for awhile.

There should be delays and exceptions, as well. Look how long it's taken for the HDTV conversion to take place and how many times it has been pushed back.

A black market will exist, as well. You'll be able to get incandescent lights from other countries for our lifetimes. Probably like the black market toilets. Yeah, really. The low flush models are not popular with everyone, so there's a trade in used standard models and some are smuggled from Mexico and Canada.

Personally, I'm going to stick with incandescent lighting. I prefer the color to CF and I have a number of antique lights that don't look right with a CF spiral in them. Might bump up my plans to switch household lighting over to DC. Don't know if I'll wire it into the house, but I'd build DC power supplies to plug most lights into. AC is what kills filaments; if you run incandescents on DC, they last for years and years.
 
Dec 26, 2007 at 7:45 AM Post #12 of 21
I'm not a big fan of CFL's. Pretty stupid since we'll be trading energy savings for a toxic landfill problem.

I am looking into changing my lights over to LED based ones. Especially lights that see constant on/off use like bathroom and closet lights.

-Ed
 
Dec 26, 2007 at 9:03 AM Post #13 of 21
1. one major volcanic eruption puts far more greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere than man has.

2. Down here in the (US) South we are far to heavily armed to be concerned about tube confiscation.
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Dec 26, 2007 at 11:02 AM Post #14 of 21
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1. one major volcanic eruption puts far more greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere than man has.


Myth: claims that volcanoes emit more CO2 than human activities are simply not true. In the very distant past, there have been volcanic eruptions so massive that they covered vast areas in lava more than a kilometre thick and appear to have released enough CO2 to warm the planet after the initial cooling caused by the dust. But even with such gigantic eruptions, most of subsequent warming may have been due to methane released when lava heated coal deposits, rather than from CO2 from the volcanoes.

Measurements of CO2 levels over the past 50 years do not show any significant rises after eruptions. Total emissions from volcanoes on land are estimated to average just 0.3 Gt of CO2 each year – about a hundredth of human emissions.


Climate myths: Human CO2 emissions are too tiny to matter - climate-change - 16 May 2007 - New Scientist Environment
 
Dec 26, 2007 at 12:54 PM Post #15 of 21
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Down here in the (US) South we are far to heavily armed to be concerned about tube confiscation.
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Hehehe!
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Yes indeed!
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