Complete setup for under $1,000
Feb 4, 2010 at 6:58 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 17

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Over a year ago, I was limping with a damaged HD 555 + X-Fi Prelude. I still have the setup now - and after the third time in three days that my Prelude died on me (forces a restart, which is tiresome and obtrusive), I've decided that I really do need a replacement now. Then, I couldn't decide on something better, and didn't have a great budget, but now, I have a slightly better situation to work with.

While I do watch videos, chat and play games (FPS, RTS), music is obviously at the forefront, and I think it'd be fair that at this price range any phones should be able to do all that exceptionally well. However, despite my minute playlist, a massive variety of genres are covered (pretty much everything that comes to mind after a minute of brainstorming. Classical, metal, pop & electronica, are the four most prevalent, but I have plenty of 'strange stuff' and 'outliers') so there can be no particularly glaring weaknesses. My source isn't perfect, but most of my music is relatively modern (2000s) and have decent production values - so only a bit of leeway there is required. However, I do have a small contingent of more underground music, with lesser production, and it would hurt considerably the setup were particularly unforgiving.

(I do not want multiple phones/amps etc. I don't want to use one phone for a certain genre of music and such - I simply don't have the opportunity, as my playlists are all shuffled. Soothing arias could shift into death metal instantly, so I do not want to ever switch my components)

$1,000 (USD/CAD, though I live in Canada, and I prefer to not have to Ebay everything. However, I would be hardly surprised that most electronics stores do not specific audiophile phones that would be mentioned. Less that $1,000 of course, is all the better.) must cover the entire setup (Headphones + anything else required, Amps, sound card, whatever). I'd prefer something easy to set up, as I'm not a fan of complex DIY projects that I have no experience with, especially at this price point. Note that I would most likely never mod my equipment, so do not factor in such a variable. I do that because I invariably have terrible luck with the condition of my belongings, so excellent build quality is a must.

Basically, all I require is a rounded, simple, stable & sturdy setup. Though I'd prefer open, circumaural cans (and comfort does matter, of course. I can keep my HD 555s on for hours on end, even while I'm not playing anything), that doesn't matter as much as the aforementioned points. I'll be mostly using it at home (portability doesn't matter) - I just prefer headphones due to small things, such as the fact that they bleed ever so slightly less than actual speakers.

Note that I love my current setup, and if it weren't for my own callousness I wouldn't have issues. But then again, I wouldn't have another great chance to hurt my wallet.

Thank you very much in advance.
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 7:26 AM Post #2 of 17
you could go for something like

DT990/600
DarkVoice 3322
and well known source like Musiland Fidelity V-DAC

stable set up that will most definitely keep you satisfied for a very long time.
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 7:57 AM Post #3 of 17
If you like your Sennheisers, I'd recommend going with the HD-600. Wonderful headphones and you'll probably love the step up.

I'd pair them with a good solid state amp, like a Gilmore Lite/Dynalo, M^3, CK2III, or EC/SS.

That should leave you a little left over for a nice CD player. I'd lookmfor a used Marantz CD5001 or Rega Planet. Both are very good and will compliment the rest of the system.

Also, keep an eye on the For Sale Forum, Audiogon and other used hi-fi sources. You can save a lot of money.
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 8:04 AM Post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by David.M /img/forum/go_quote.gif
you could go for something like

DT990/600
DarkVoice 3322
and well known source like Musiland Fidelity V-DAC

stable set up that will most definitely keep you satisfied for a very long time.



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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If you like your Sennheisers, I'd recommend going with the HD-600. Wonderful headphones and you'll probably love the step up.

I'd pair them with a good solid state amp, like a Gilmore Lite/Dynalo, M^3, CK2III, or EC/SS.

That should leave you a little left over for a nice CD player. I'd lookmfor a used Marantz CD5001 or Rega Planet. Both are very good and will compliment the rest of the system.

Also, keep an eye on the For Sale Forum, Audiogon and other used hi-fi sources. You can save a lot of money.




Thank you both for your responses.

However, I'm not sure if I was clear enough or not, but all my media is on my computer (as I shuffle everything, and it is simply more convenient for me. I very rarely listen to entire albums from start to finish).

Also, what is the difference between the HD 600 and the HD 650?

Finally, while this may seem to be a stupid question: how exactly would my setup be connected (DAC / Amp, to each other and my computer? Ie. where would I plug my headphones to if I didn't use a sound card and used media from my computer alone, no CDs? I have an idea of how it works, but I just want to be sure.)
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 8:53 AM Post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by Vergex2 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Finally, while this may seem to be a stupid question: how exactly would my setup be connected (DAC / Amp, to each other and my computer? Ie. where would I plug my headphones to if I didn't use a sound card and used media from my computer alone, no CDs? I have an idea of how it works, but I just want to be sure.)


A DAC is a Digital-to-Analog converter. A fancy name for a (generally) external multi-function soundcard. Your gear setup would, traditionally, go something like:

PC -> DAC -> AMP -> Phones
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 9:25 AM Post #6 of 17
(Little Dot MKVII+) + (Little Dot DAC_I) + (Senn HD6000) = $1,000
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Feb 4, 2010 at 10:30 AM Post #8 of 17
Hm, I'd say...

(in order of first choice / second choice):

Headphones:
HD 600 OR Beyer DT 880
Amp:
Heed Canamp OR Gilmore Lite
Source:
DAC: NuForce uDAC OR Soundcard: Whatever suits you (I'm not all that knowledgeable on soundcards; you'll want this option if you game a lot)

As for the HD 600 vs HD 650, I think the 650's bassier compared to the 600? At least, from what I've read.

Setting up your PC:
DAC: Connect DAC to PC (USB or coax or optical). Connect DAC's analog outs (RCA) to amplifier. Connect headphone to amplifier. Additionally, you will have to set the computer's default sound output device as your DAC, though this is usually done automatically.
Soundcard: Install soundcard onto computer. Connect amplifier to soundcard's out (digital or analog). Connect headphone to amplifier.
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 10:59 AM Post #10 of 17
All of the above are excellent suggestions that I have considered over the last month. You won't be dissapointed with any of them. Let me also add:

Stax 2050 system ($600 from PriceJapan) + any USB DAC in budget

Used Grado RS-1 ($500) + Grado RA-1 AC ($400) + uDac ($100)
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 11:57 AM Post #12 of 17
Man, I totally forgot about STAX. I suppose a STAX System + DAC would be a lot easier since you wouldn't need to do any amp-matching anymore!
 
Feb 4, 2010 at 7:07 PM Post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by Uncle Erik /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If you like your Sennheisers, I'd recommend going with the HD-600. Wonderful headphones and you'll probably love the step up.

I'd pair them with a good solid state amp, like a Gilmore Lite/Dynalo, M^3, CK2III, or EC/SS.

That should leave you a little left over for a nice CD player. I'd lookmfor a used Marantz CD5001 or Rega Planet. Both are very good and will compliment the rest of the system.

Also, keep an eye on the For Sale Forum, Audiogon and other used hi-fi sources. You can save a lot of money.



+1

Just a few things to add.Instead of 600 you can go with a used 580 for a lower price since there is no difference between them except metal grills AFAIK.But I would reccomend to pass both and have HD650.It is better to my ears(stronger bass and better improvment with good amplification) but its personal..

Gilmore is overpriced at it's price point IMO and not sure if ec/ss is capable of driving them at their limits.My personal fav. is M3 with a good power supply.It is a terrific amp.
There is also Audio-gd C2C worth mentioning but have not heard it myself.

If you going to use your computer as your source you may want to look for a usb dac.
Pico,gamma2 and ps audio link III(more expensive) deserves attention in my book.

Good luck..
 

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