AngusMcToon
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This is going to be a little long-winded, but I think I'm asking for suggestions on how to manage comparisons...I've gotten a bunch o' new variables here and have begun the auditioning process to start to differentiate among them. I'm trying to balance being somewhat scientific with listening against my real sources, in my real environment, etc., to find the combinations that will produce a consistently great sound from my phones in daily use.
Today was the first time I combined the big new components, and did a bunch of direct A-B comparisons using a new (used) TAH 9V. So I compared the TAH with crossfeed engaged (I generally really like crossfeed, and want to use it most of the time, so it seems reasonable to test with cf engaged, no?). I listened to several songs completely through using my HD600 with stock cable, my new Ety 4Ps, and the 4Ps using the fixup adapter (the 5in gold RS one). For consistency (well, I was at work), I used my SlimX for all tunes, with the TAH connected to the line out and powered by a 12V DC adapter, with CDs and some MP3 cds with a variety of encoding rates ranging from 128 to 360, many encoded with the r3mix.net vbr preset via CDex or EAC.
This is my first day with the TAH, and my first week with the Etys, so this is a very preliminary, exploratory set of observations, just kind of orienting myself still.
Overall impressions: the TAH livens up the HD600 considerably, changing--I'm not sure I can describe exactly how just yet--the soundstage a bit, and letting them breathe more. I find my reaction to the 600s changes dramatically depending on the material, but it's almost always positive...sometimes more positive than others. I may be hallucinating, but I feel I can hear some areas, that mid bump area, where even the TAH struggles a bit--there's still room for improvement is my overall assessment. Put on, e.g., the Offspring, not my favorite band or anything, but there's still room to rev up on the thrashing side of things. In general the 600 sound is just thrilling to me, elegant and musical, especially gorgeous with woodwind instruments, voices. The Ellington / Armstrong Great Reunion through 600s...unreal.
I started with the A-B between the 600 and the adapted-to-4S Etys (let's pretend they're 4S), and was feeling a little perplexed. I was cranking the volume to higher levels to drive the 4S to equivalent volumes to match the 600. There's still a difference of 200ohm in question, right? This mystifies me a bit. Am I still not seating the Etys properly?
Etys have a very different sound to my ears, indeed much more analytical, and I feel that there's room in life, at least my life, for the characteristic sound of both the 600 and the Etys--I like them both, but they do sound very different. Analytical seems accurate for the Etys, but I'm wary about using any adjective because I'm still struggling to figure out how to fit them, and they can sound very different based on the particulars of the seal--this to me seems like their greatest drawback, along with that awful feeling after first sealing of having too much pressure inside the ear. I still find the Etys very uncomfortable.
Well, after about 6 times through the same material with 4S and 600s, I realized I hadn't really tried the 4P with the amp direct...and surprisingly, that produced a match that I found very compelling. Have I been taken in by the volume control alone? I don't know...I tried to compensate but this is an inexact science. The 4P through the TAH though struck me as open and profoundly easy...a great sound for rock and roll, quick and present. Do I have a predilection for the EQ curve of the 4P? Is it just that the 4P are well matched with a portable amp? Well, all I can say is that the 4P + TAH combination brought about the most satisfying listening to date through the Etys, bright and detailed, forceful, illuminating in spite of all the nasty earwax gurgling I get now and then.
So I'm new at this (though well I've become somewhat obsessed) but have all this very nice gear. And I feel it's important to derive pleasing sounds out of it all, that's what's really important. And I've added things quickly, so I may end up losing track of where the real incremental gains come from.
But it's fascinating how different the same material can sound.
I wish the Etys were winning me over more than they are; so far, the discomfort is outweighing their amazing capabilities. The 600 sound seems puffier by comparison, but the 600s themselves are so much more relaxing to wear it's hard to concentrate on sound alone. I've had moments with the Etys where I've completely understood why they're so well respected here--but I find it disconcerting that it's so hard to get them to perform this way seal after seal. I'm resolved to give them a good long trial, open them up, and adapt to their idiosyncracies.
Least compelling is the 4S sound through the TAH. I don't know why, but today so far that combo seemed lifeless, underpowered, slow, labored in many cases, to such an extent that I've been wondering if my cable might be defective in some way.
Well, these are subjective impressions, but I'd welcome any suggestions, strategies, tactics for rationalizing all this.
Thanks,
AMcT
Today was the first time I combined the big new components, and did a bunch of direct A-B comparisons using a new (used) TAH 9V. So I compared the TAH with crossfeed engaged (I generally really like crossfeed, and want to use it most of the time, so it seems reasonable to test with cf engaged, no?). I listened to several songs completely through using my HD600 with stock cable, my new Ety 4Ps, and the 4Ps using the fixup adapter (the 5in gold RS one). For consistency (well, I was at work), I used my SlimX for all tunes, with the TAH connected to the line out and powered by a 12V DC adapter, with CDs and some MP3 cds with a variety of encoding rates ranging from 128 to 360, many encoded with the r3mix.net vbr preset via CDex or EAC.
This is my first day with the TAH, and my first week with the Etys, so this is a very preliminary, exploratory set of observations, just kind of orienting myself still.
Overall impressions: the TAH livens up the HD600 considerably, changing--I'm not sure I can describe exactly how just yet--the soundstage a bit, and letting them breathe more. I find my reaction to the 600s changes dramatically depending on the material, but it's almost always positive...sometimes more positive than others. I may be hallucinating, but I feel I can hear some areas, that mid bump area, where even the TAH struggles a bit--there's still room for improvement is my overall assessment. Put on, e.g., the Offspring, not my favorite band or anything, but there's still room to rev up on the thrashing side of things. In general the 600 sound is just thrilling to me, elegant and musical, especially gorgeous with woodwind instruments, voices. The Ellington / Armstrong Great Reunion through 600s...unreal.
I started with the A-B between the 600 and the adapted-to-4S Etys (let's pretend they're 4S), and was feeling a little perplexed. I was cranking the volume to higher levels to drive the 4S to equivalent volumes to match the 600. There's still a difference of 200ohm in question, right? This mystifies me a bit. Am I still not seating the Etys properly?
Etys have a very different sound to my ears, indeed much more analytical, and I feel that there's room in life, at least my life, for the characteristic sound of both the 600 and the Etys--I like them both, but they do sound very different. Analytical seems accurate for the Etys, but I'm wary about using any adjective because I'm still struggling to figure out how to fit them, and they can sound very different based on the particulars of the seal--this to me seems like their greatest drawback, along with that awful feeling after first sealing of having too much pressure inside the ear. I still find the Etys very uncomfortable.
Well, after about 6 times through the same material with 4S and 600s, I realized I hadn't really tried the 4P with the amp direct...and surprisingly, that produced a match that I found very compelling. Have I been taken in by the volume control alone? I don't know...I tried to compensate but this is an inexact science. The 4P through the TAH though struck me as open and profoundly easy...a great sound for rock and roll, quick and present. Do I have a predilection for the EQ curve of the 4P? Is it just that the 4P are well matched with a portable amp? Well, all I can say is that the 4P + TAH combination brought about the most satisfying listening to date through the Etys, bright and detailed, forceful, illuminating in spite of all the nasty earwax gurgling I get now and then.
So I'm new at this (though well I've become somewhat obsessed) but have all this very nice gear. And I feel it's important to derive pleasing sounds out of it all, that's what's really important. And I've added things quickly, so I may end up losing track of where the real incremental gains come from.
But it's fascinating how different the same material can sound.
I wish the Etys were winning me over more than they are; so far, the discomfort is outweighing their amazing capabilities. The 600 sound seems puffier by comparison, but the 600s themselves are so much more relaxing to wear it's hard to concentrate on sound alone. I've had moments with the Etys where I've completely understood why they're so well respected here--but I find it disconcerting that it's so hard to get them to perform this way seal after seal. I'm resolved to give them a good long trial, open them up, and adapt to their idiosyncracies.
Least compelling is the 4S sound through the TAH. I don't know why, but today so far that combo seemed lifeless, underpowered, slow, labored in many cases, to such an extent that I've been wondering if my cable might be defective in some way.
Well, these are subjective impressions, but I'd welcome any suggestions, strategies, tactics for rationalizing all this.
Thanks,
AMcT