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Jan 27, 2015 at 12:11 AM Post #2 of 30

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I'd say either a HD650, but get it when it's on sale. They have been on sale a lot recently. Alternatives include the AKG Massdrop K7XX (When it drops again, which may be a while.), they can get away with not having an amp. A cheaper alternative could be the Sennheiser HD598. I would very strongly recommend an amplifier if you choose to go the HD650 route.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 12:42 PM Post #7 of 30

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  Thanks for the many suggestions. Regarding the sennheisers, is the infamous sennheiser veil still present or a thing o' the past?


I've always found it in my brief listening to the HD5 and 6 series, and almost universally prefer AT to Senn for clarity, transparency, and detail. Since no one has mentioned it yet, I'll suggest you look into the AD series. I've heard a lot of good things about the AKGs as well, but haven't had the pleasure of hearing them.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 3:10 PM Post #8 of 30

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The sennehiser veil only existed because hifi headphones of the past tended to lack bass, and the HD650 is very laid back, with a slight mid-bass bump. I don't think there is a veil.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 3:21 PM Post #9 of 30

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The sennehiser veil only existed because hifi headphones of the past tended to lack bass, and the HD650 is very laid back, with a slight mid-bass bump. I don't think there is a veil.

Always fun to beat a dead horse; it's been too long since I've seen that glorious animation. I'm trying to decide between the hd600 (or 650 if i can find a good sale) and ad1000x. Thoughts?
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 6:14 PM Post #10 of 30

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The sennehiser veil only existed because hifi headphones of the past tended to lack bass, and the HD650 is very laid back, with a slight mid-bass bump. I don't think there is a veil.

Always fun to beat a dead horse; it's been too long since I've seen that glorious animation. I'm trying to decide between the hd600 (or 650 if i can find a good sale) and ad1000x. Thoughts?

 
The 1000X has a large sound stage--unlike the Senns and more like the Q701.
 
See also:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HD600
 
and
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HD650
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 8:36 PM Post #11 of 30

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The 1000X has a large sound stage--unlike the Senns and more like the Q701.
 
See also:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HD600
 
and
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HD650

Based on that, I think I'm leaning towards the HD600. Any final thoughts on the 1000X?
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 9:40 PM Post #12 of 30

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The sennehiser veil only existed because hifi headphones of the past tended to lack bass, and the HD650 is very laid back, with a slight mid-bass bump. I don't think there is a veil.

 
Also because a lot of impressions can come under less than ideal conditions. Let's say ten people listen to the HD580/600/650 at a meet - by the time the third or fourth person gets to them the earpads would have been very compressed if they're not using brand new earpads and the headband wasn't bent into the proper shape (they're supposed to feel a bit like the K701 when worn, not the vise grip nor the tight pressure under the ears). With that you're going to end up with potentially six to seven people chiming in everywhere about a veil, and maybe two people saying the treble is kinda sharp but the midrange has a veil, all depending on how compressed the earpads were when they got to them.
 
Jan 27, 2015 at 11:10 PM Post #14 of 30

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The 1000X has a large sound stage--unlike the Senns and more like the Q701.
 
See also:
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HD600
 
and
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/634201/battle-of-the-flagships-58-headphones-compared-update-audeze-lcd-2-revision-2-6-4-13#user_HD650

Based on that, I think I'm leaning towards the HD600. Any final thoughts on the 1000X?


Can't help you--only have experience with 900X and 2000X.
 

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