Chord Electronics Qutest DAC - Official Thread
Feb 20, 2020 at 5:05 PM Post #4,606 of 6,736
@ecwl I try not to listen too loud :wink: in order to be able to still hear the difference. I also almost don't have any hard to drive headphones. The one thing that made this decision more complex is this review of Qutest: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ew-and-measurements-of-chord-qutest-dac.5981/

While I highly doubt I would hear measured difference between Hugo 2 and Qutest you know the feeling when you know it is somewhere there :wink: What headphone amp would you recommend for Quest. At the end I would like to have a similar sound in terms of warm like Mojo, but with more detail.
 
Feb 20, 2020 at 5:53 PM Post #4,607 of 6,736
@ecwl I try not to listen too loud :wink: in order to be able to still hear the difference. I also almost don't have any hard to drive headphones. The one thing that made this decision more complex is this review of Qutest: https://www.audiosciencereview.com/...ew-and-measurements-of-chord-qutest-dac.5981/

While I highly doubt I would hear measured difference between Hugo 2 and Qutest you know the feeling when you know it is somewhere there :wink: What headphone amp would you recommend for Quest. At the end I would like to have a similar sound in terms of warm like Mojo, but with more detail.
I would not recommend any headphone amps with the Qutest because I think the combo of Qutest with any headphone amp inevitably leads to a loss of transparency compared to Hugo 2. I would only recommend Qutest if somebody already owns a favorite headphone amp and don't want to part with it. However, it is always possible that some people prefer Qutest + headphone amp vs Hugo 2 because depending on people's music listening preferences and actual preferred music they listen to, some music might sound more euphonic with the Qutest + headphone amp. If you're currently using Mojo and like it, and you want to upgrade, I think saving up for the Hugo 2 is the next logical upgrade.
 
Feb 20, 2020 at 6:14 PM Post #4,608 of 6,736
I would not recommend any headphone amps with the Qutest because I think the combo of Qutest with any headphone amp inevitably leads to a loss of transparency compared to Hugo 2. I would only recommend Qutest if somebody already owns a favorite headphone amp and don't want to part with it. However, it is always possible that some people prefer Qutest + headphone amp vs Hugo 2 because depending on people's music listening preferences and actual preferred music they listen to, some music might sound more euphonic with the Qutest + headphone amp. If you're currently using Mojo and like it, and you want to upgrade, I think saving up for the Hugo 2 is the next logical upgrade.
Thank you @ecwl for valuable input and your time. It makes a lot of sense.
 
Feb 21, 2020 at 4:26 PM Post #4,609 of 6,736
been considering buying a used 2qute or qutest , but having looked on chord's website support page i see no driver or firmware downloads available.
why is this?
 
Feb 21, 2020 at 4:44 PM Post #4,610 of 6,736
been considering buying a used 2qute or qutest , but having looked on chord's website support page i see no driver or firmware downloads available.
why is this?
If you want driver for 2qute is it available on the product page (at least there is a link to driver - never tested it): https://chordelectronics.co.uk/product/2qute/

Our of curiosity looking at your signature I've noticed you are using ifi micro idsd - are you planning to exchange it with Chord product or are you looking for 2qute/qutest for a different setup?
 
Feb 21, 2020 at 7:05 PM Post #4,612 of 6,736
im looking to compare and potentially replace the ifi idsd
 
Feb 21, 2020 at 7:15 PM Post #4,613 of 6,736
... I would only recommend Qutest if somebody already owns a favorite headphone amp and don't want to part with it...

@ecwl Good shout. After just a short while replacing 2Qute with Qutest, double blind tests prove that I'm very pleased with the upgrade, both through my favourite HP amp and through my (limiting) nCore class D power amps.

My plan was to sell the 2Qute but after using it to directly drive my HD800, I'm going to keep it on my desk at work. Thanks, @Reactcore.
 
Feb 21, 2020 at 7:21 PM Post #4,614 of 6,736
Qutest 1V output = considerably less attenuation = better SQ (more 'life') through my speaker system. Could be expectation bias but double blind tests suggest not.
 
Feb 22, 2020 at 12:19 AM Post #4,615 of 6,736
However, it is always possible that some people prefer Qutest + headphone amp vs Hugo 2 because depending on people's music listening preferences and actual preferred music they listen to
Or...some people own headphones that thrive on more power, e.g. Abyss 1266 Phi TC.
Hugo 2 740mW into 33 Ohms
SMSL SP200 3 watts into 32 Ohms

Ridiculously stiff audiofool cables are a B**ch though.

0221202052 by drjlo2, on Flickr
 
Feb 22, 2020 at 4:59 AM Post #4,616 of 6,736
Or...some people own headphones that thrive on more power, e.g. Abyss 1266 Phi TC.
Hugo 2 740mW into 33 Ohms
SMSL SP200 3 watts into 32 Ohms

Ridiculously stiff audiofool cables are a B**ch though.

0221202052 by drjlo2, on Flickr
This is the best way to connect an RCA output to the THX amp, over its XLR input
https://benchmarkmedia.com/products/benchmark-rca-to-xlrm-adapter-cable
as recommended by Andrew, one of the engineers of the THX AAA tech.

This adapter cable extends balanced wiring to the RCA connector using star-quad wire to maximize the effectiveness of the balanced input: One half of the star-quad ties Pin 3 of the XLR to the shield of the RCA connector. The other half of the star-quad ties pin 2 of the XLR to the center pin on the RCA. The braided shield ties pin 1 of the XLR to the shield of the RCA.

Using this special wiring, a ground-loop between the two audio devices will produce a current in the braided shield, but not in the audio signal lines. This keeps ground-loop currents out of the critical signal lines and greatly reduces the potential for interference. The separate connection from the RCA ground to pin 2 of the XLR provides a dedicated path for the audio ground reference. This wiring leverages the common-mode rejection of the balanced XLR input to reduce conducted interference.

To reduce magnetic interference, the audio signal is carried on two twisted pairs arranged in a star-quad configuration. This star-quad configuration provides immunity to hum-inducing magnetic fields produced by nearby electronic devices.

This cable provides the best method for directly interfacing an unbalanced output to a balanced input.
 
Feb 22, 2020 at 5:00 AM Post #4,617 of 6,736
having looked on chord's website support page i see no driver or firmware downloads available.
Rob Watts approach for the dacs, is to spend a lot of time testing/optimising the code, until he believes the sound quality cannot be improved, given the design constraints for each model.
No more updates are made to the code for that dac, so there are no firmware updates to download.

In contrast, Rob is not involved in the streamer (Poly and 2Go) designs, and these have been designed from day 1, to allow firmware updates.
 
Feb 22, 2020 at 5:37 AM Post #4,618 of 6,736
My plan was to sell the 2Qute but after using it to directly drive my HD800, I'm going to keep it on my desk at work. Thanks, @Reactcore.
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Have u tried Qutest to drive direct too? Should b even better. The buffer caps i placed also give better control of the HP's drivers. Hugo and TT have those too. Qutest normally dont need them feeding amps. But a HP draws more current. The caps deliver for the peaks. its specially noticable in the bass performance.
 
Feb 23, 2020 at 3:46 AM Post #4,619 of 6,736
Have u tried Qutest to drive direct too? Should b even better. The buffer caps i placed also give better control of the HP's drivers. Hugo and TT have those too. Qutest normally dont need them feeding amps. But a HP draws more current. The caps deliver for the peaks. its specially noticable in the bass performance.

It's on my to do list. Thank you. For now, I'm just living with Qutest in my speaker system, and loving it so far.
 
Feb 29, 2020 at 12:04 PM Post #4,620 of 6,736
I have recently run into an issue where some/most HD music files have static crackle and pops during the more intense portions of the song, similar to clipping, but at very low volume as well. I assume this is down to my Dell laptop/Realtek speakers, but even after trying everything I still can't figure it out. THe workaround I have is to play Youtube music at 0% volume in a webbrowser outputting to laptop speakers. This allows Roon to serve HD files flawlessly.

I am just a little worried I have a problem that isn't letting my system perform as it should. Thoughts?
 

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