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Chord Electronics - Hugo 2 - The Official Thread

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by ChordElectronics, Jan 5, 2017.
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  1. maxh22
    I can't find the original post, but Rob believes there is no audible difference with regards to plastic verus glass toslink cables for his dacs. 
     
  2. musickid
    try Kabel Direkt. excellent quality//price. on amazon and well liked on headfi.
     
  3. Mojo ideas
    They either work or they don't especially at high frequencies over 94k glass is better than plastic in genaral this is because glass has less luminous hysteresis. That's the effect you get dramatically increased some plastics toys that glow in the dark. All plastics do that to some effect. So glass can be switched on and off faster
     
  4. Em2016
     
    I would love to know what actual Toslink Rob uses or prefers to use in his spare time! 
    @Rob Watts
     
    I'm guessing the answer will be 'Chord's optical cables of course' :)
     
  5. musickid
    didn't he say bog standard generic ones? maybe im wrong.
     
  6. Em2016
    Looking forward to swapping out my Mojo for a Hugo 2 ! I'm gobsmacked at the performance of the Mojo so I'm getting prepared to be gobsmacked at the Hugo 2, at 3 times the price with all the extra (and new) tech.
     
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  7. uzi2

    As far as I am aware Chord Electronics do not make cables. The Chord Cable Co. is a completely separate entity.
     
  8. Rob Watts
    Bog standard plastic - except for 192 kHz, when I use very short bog standard plastic!
     
    My DAC's are intolerant of jitter, and also intolerant of optical's asymettric rise and fall times - the SPDIF rx in the FPGA automatically calibrates for this. So long as it is bit perfect, I have not been able to hear any difference.
     
    I have bought Kabel Direkt - excellent service.
     
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    https://www.facebook.com/chordelectronics https://twitter.com/chordaudio http://www.chordelectronics.co.uk/
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  9. Em2016
     
    NICE. Cheers Rob
     
  10. Em2016
     
    By the way Rob @Rob Watts, is there a way we can test if our Mojo or Hugo Dac is actually receiving a bit perfect signal via Toslink?
     
    An easy way with some sort of bit perfect test track/file, played to the Mojo/Hugo?
     
  11. Rob Watts
    In my experience it is bit perfect or it's obviously failing.
     
    But to test it use DoP DSD - if its mute free, it's bit perfect. Of course most of the time glitches are due to the source processor, but assuming its fine on USB, then optical will be fine if it is bit perfect.
     
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  12. musickid
    tidal's chairman is quoted as saying the desktop version as it is closer to the OS ensures bit perfect delivery. can we trust this statement?
     
  13. Peter Hyatt

    if you have his exact quote, post it.  
     
  14. musickid
    From What Hifi  5/6/15:
     
    "The desktop app, Lending says, offers "bit perfect playback". As he explains: "The native [desktop] app means we're much closer to the OS on Windows and Mac, and much closer to the audio card."
     
     
    Rune Lending is the chief technology officer not the CEO. my mistake here. Confirmation that Tidal is delivered bit perfect would be great if anyone can see through the above statement. Added reassurance for those of us still new to player software and lack the ability to manipulate such packages.
     
     
    Just confirmed the black hugo 2. The report highlighting the 'stand out' of the milling around the volume as being quite eyecatching in conjunction with the black matte hugo 1 being replaced by a deep shine just did it for me. my dealer will now reserve one for me as soon as they hit the shop floors. Stealth hugo 2...lol
     
  15. AndrewOld

    Not necessarily. There are good arguments that many files on Tidal suffer from so-called "digital watermarking". See https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark for examples. If this is true, it would mean that Tidal delivers a deliberately corrupted file bit-perfectly - i.e. corrupted by a watermark that is audible under some circumstances and particularly for some genres of music such as classical piano. In which case Tidal might be bit perfect, but it doesn't deliver cd quality because the cd has no watermarking. So Tidal chairmans statement might be true, but it is misleading if it makes you think you are guaranteed cd quality.
     
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