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Chord Electronics - Hugo 2 - The Official Thread

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by ChordElectronics, Jan 5, 2017.
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  1. JaZZ Contributor
    Certainly not. There are people who use a power amp for driving the (easy-to-drive) HE1000se or even the Utopia and swear by it.

    A while back I have auditioned the LCD-4 with my original Hugo and had no complaints. The extremely unsensitive Susvara (which according to some definitely needs a speaker amp) sounded better driven directly by the DAVE than via the powerful HiFiMan EF-1000 amp designed for it.

    I suspect in some cases it might also be a psychological effect in that having to turn the volume regulator almost to max feels like underpowering. And in some cases people simply like the added harmonic distortion leading to increased authority and «bass control».

    In any event you will lose transparency and resolution by adding an amp to the Hugo₂. In turn it may provide some forgivingness with respect to tonal flaws (from the notoriously nonlinear sound transducers).
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  2. Chikolad
    Isn't it really underpowering? If at the max volume the average SPL is comfortable listening level, where is the headroom for the transient peaks that are sometimes x30 or x40 higher in amplitude compared to the average SPL?
  3. dmance
    I am in heaven with my Hugo2 direct to Nighthawks. No want for power, IMO. Transients are fast, bass slam incredible and lots of stage.

    Of course I have optical DX isolation and the best quality upsampling. This shows me that Hugo2 has all the drive needed IMO, all it needs is isolation to sound it's best....not a transparency robbing external amp.
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  4. JaZZ Contributor
    «Max volume» means maximum undistorted (< 1% THD) output power, power peaks included. Music is alternating current of extremely fluctuating amplitudes=voltages, so «comfortable listening level» varies between 0 and xxx mW. Comfortable listening levels with the LCD-3 in my understanding won't force the Hugo₂ to clipping. Also, the average amplitude of your music is way below digital zero (save for some heavily compressed heavy metal), therefore even with a high volume-level setting power will only approach its limits during peaks.
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  5. Hooster
    A "consensus" would be valuable if everyone had the same brain and hearing apparatus that you do. They don't, so it isn't. If you are worried about this, then try before you buy or arrange to be able to return the item if it does not work for you.
  6. Chikolad
    I meant the majority of owners. Anyway I was just curious, trying to understand the power ratings better. I have a Hugo 2 and an LCD-3 and I'm not considering upgrading either one currently.
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  7. ruthieandjohn
    Does the Hugo 2 have the same output power as the original Hugo?

  8. Rob Watts
    Hugo 2 has more power into low impedance loads - so 8 ohms it's 1050 mW, against the original of about 750mW (if memory serves!). More importantly it's much more linear (lower distortion) into lower impedance loads, such as 33 ohms - no significant increase in distortion with the load attached. This makes it smoother and warmer with 33 ohms and below.
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  9. iulian_sip
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  10. piercer
    Anybody know if the 2go will make an appearance before the end of the year - been waiting for it for ages :frowning2:
  11. Vyyy
    John Franks has posted few weeks ago that new product from chord will be annouced very very soon in a private show. Wondering to if its before Tokyo international audio show or not. Tokyo show is this week.
  12. miketlse
    Ten days ago, he mentioned a private event, and hinted a several product announcements. https://www.head-fi.org/threads/can...read-november-9-10-2019.918758/#post-15297572

    Now on the Chord facebook page, there are photos and posts about the Chord global distributors attending the Phuket Conference.

    This article about the new roles for John and Matt, also mentions 'We congratulate both Matthew and John on their new appointments and are looking forward to experiencing the latest products as shown at the company's international distributor conference. Expect the first of these to appear as early as next month.'

    So keep your eyes peeled for any news.
    Last edited: Nov 19, 2019
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  13. MikeRight
    Someone who assisted the event confirmed me that 2Go will be presented in December. No info about retail price yet.

    In any case my concern is about software and not hardware. We know it more or less since 2018.

    I really dream with a much more professional software. Something more “Apple style”. Something far away from Poly experience.

    Let’s see!
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  14. ZappaMan
    Is that the mscaler lol?
  15. SteveOliver
    I wouldn't think it will be any different to the Poly experience, Chord is only a small company with limited software resource so I can't imagine they would throw away all the money, time and effort spent on Poly. If they did then 2Go will most likely have another completely different set of problems and issues.

    I personally got myself an Xudoo X10T II, connected it to the Hugo2 with an optical cable and it just works.

    Yes I'm a bit annoyed that Chord treats Android users as second class citizens, with the app issues and overall Poly experience but with counselling I think I've moved on now, maybe. :wink:
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