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Discussion in 'High-end Audio Forum' started by magiccabbage, May 14, 2015.
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  1. musicday
    Something Special, Made in Romania :), that happens to be the best sounding headphone in the world of it's kind.
    Last edited: Jan 25, 2019
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  2. tunes
    Can the DAVE be used with headphones having a balanced cable? Will I need to get a new cable or is there an adapter to go from an existing 4.4 mm TRRRS plug to use two (R and L) XLR female plugs? It’s a pain that the balanced outputs are on the back of DAVE instead of on the front and then cannot use the XLR out to drive Omega speakers. Is there a perceptible difference between single ended and balanced out from DAVE? Should I just get an adapter to go from the 4.4 TRRRS to SE 1/4 in plug? Will this degrade anything?
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2019
  3. JaZZ Contributor
    Unlike with the TT₂ DAVE's balanced outputs are not suitable for headphones, just high-impedance loads. So an adapter from TRRRS to single-ended ¼" will be the solution. Every adapter causes some minor sound degradation, but probably you won't notice it, the less so without direct comparison. Of course you could also reterminate the cable with a ¼" TRS plug...
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2019
  4. koven Contributor
    I see you both use crossfeed off? Just with the Meze or in general?
  5. musicday
    I used the ceossfeed off with the Meze and I liked how it sounds. Tried same with HD820 but resolution, the sound was dry and not of my liking.
  6. Tom Blake
    The Empyrean is the first headphone that I have found sounds best with Crossfeed off on DAVE. Everything else I have listened to I have preferred Crossfeed set to 2 or 3. Advantage is I don't have to remember to turn it off when listening to the Empyrean and switching to speakers!
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  7. spotforscott
    Anyone with an Empyrean, compare it to the ABYSS PHI through DAVE? A lot of comments about Empyrean vs focal, audeze and hifiman cans but nothing comparing it to the Abyss. I am particularly curious about comparative performance vs DAVE because the Empyrean is so much more efficient...
  8. xxx1313
    Just with Empyrean. I use crossfeed 1 with Utopia.

    +1. Same impression here.
    Last edited: Jan 27, 2019
  9. koven Contributor
    Interesting! I have the Empyrean en route, will give no crossfeed a shot, I typically use 2-3.
  10. tunes
    Thanks for the info. The problem is that I wanted to use my HEK
    Thanks for that detailed response. My dilemma is that I have an expensive after market cable that is single ended in the 1/4” plug for the DAVE but I also want to use the HEKse with a DAP that has balanced out. I use the DAP only when on vacation so even though I can reterminate the single ended cable with 4.4 mm TRRRS I would then need to use a TRRRS to 1/4” plug adapter with unknown effect on SQ with DAVE. So I may just have to spring for a new balanced cable.
  11. Mikey99
    I listened to both, but using an amp in between. I had a clear preference for the Abyss. I posted my comparison in the Empyrean thread.
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  15. mlxx
    I am not sure either, why I said might. It also has op amps and not much power.
    It is the second biggest DAP I have seen though.
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