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Chinese / Asian Brand Info Thread (On or Over Ear Headphones)

Discussion in 'Headphones (full-size)' started by slowpickr, Oct 5, 2016.
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  1. PaganDL

    Nice work, @mbwilson111,

    I use the Krokig from Ikea for managing long cables.

    Hope you have a great day !
     
  2. nraymond
    Just received my pair of Urbanfun 50mm Beryllium headphones from the 11.11 sale, and once I swapped pads, I really like them. Stock pads are on-ear style, velour over a fast rebound foam. They're ok, but the stock clamp force of the headphones makes it a little uncomfortable on my XL head. I tried a bunch of different earpads, had good results with some inexpensive oval hybrids I had, then remembered that I had a set of Dekoni Beyerdynamic DT Elite Velour pads, which are circular, and just a mm or two bigger than the Urbanfun cups, so almost a perfect fit. Very comfortable, and good sound... I may even prefer these to my Massdrop/Sennheiser HD 58X Jubilee, and my HiFiMan HE-400i, but I need to do more listening. Build quality is great overall, though I was shocked at how hard it was to insert the 2.5mm plugs into the earcup sockets the first time. Never had to use such force on any headphones before, I was very afraid I was going to break something (or that there was some sort of obstruction inside the jacks!) After that first insertion, they aren't so bad to plug/unplug.

    Anyone know of a good source for a compatible balanced cable? I'm looking for 2.5mm TRRS termination, and the Urbanfun have 2.5mm TS sockets on the cups (didn't work with the HE-400i balanced cable I have, which has 2.5mm TRS plugs going into the cups, so I need something TS on that end). Looks like Sennheiser HD700 heaphones use that type of cable (using compatible headphone model names in searches helps)...
     
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  3. Markolav
    Could you go a bit more into detail about how they sound like?
     
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  5. Markolav
    Im little late to the party with these but... CB-1 in dah house. :) So far Im quite impressed by the sound for the price, especially the soundstage is pretty great.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Dec 10, 2019
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  6. toodles
    Hi guys, I have 99$ to spend on bluetooth on or over ear headphones--what are the best options?
     
  7. Slater
    My vote is the Radsone ES100 (exactly $99), plus your favorite pair of headphones you already own.
     
  8. CoiL
    I got my HD-672 (white) today and I`m quite surprised by its build quality and most importantly sound quality! I even think it is better than my HW filter/cable-modified HD-681 (red) by short listening time without comparison. I even think it might come close to my Fidelio X1 in SQ.
    Need to get behind my desk setup to confirm and let it have little playtime before judgement.
    Even stock rubber-pads are actually comfy ( I have already some velour pads to replace them and test sound differences.

    Anyway, for ~25€ - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED BUY by me :)

    EDIT: Naah... Fidelio X1 is still way better (especially mids) with my desk gear. More natural timbre and better balanced/ tuned highs (672 has little hills around 6-8kHz I`m quessing but no idea atm, must dig some graphs out to confirm. While I think HD-672 is very good value, I still think it needs some simple mods (maybe some more complicated) to get best out of it.
    Will let it play for week and try some different simple mods also. Currently using velour pads.
    Btw, swapping pads is super easy with HD-672 - just click-off - new ones - click on, no screws or dismantling.

    EDIT: Yeah, I was right about highs, hill starts around 6kHz and goes up to 10kHz:
    [​IMG]

    Bass is pretty tight & punchy, sub-bass is extended but well balanced without bleed or overshadowing. If those highs would get some dampening it would sound pretty close to KPE signature with "floating" clear mids (but 672 lacks mids warmth and naturality compared to X1).
    Channel separation and soundstage are above average and executed well I would say (with velour pads).

    EDIT: I had itch to try out some modding and I think I almost nailed it where I see its full potential (for my ears). That meant destroying stock pads but IMHO it`s worth it (I was not going to use those anyway). Three things needed - kitchen paper hand towel, stock pads (outer ring edge part) and littlebit electrical tape :) Well... velour pads also needed though. I use these: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32980473807.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.10844c4dVl2Ojm
    To my ears noticeably better highs and warmer/natural more prominent mids.

    Ordered those also but haven`t received yet: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000096272168.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.27424c4dflj5XG

    One LQ photo also:
    [​IMG]

    Will do removable dual-entry cable mod also.
     
    Last edited: Dec 13, 2019
  9. MoshiMoshi
    Hello peoples, best over ear headphone around one hundred dollars? I think I'm preferential to a neutral response but whatever has most hype around it. Happy holidays!
     
  10. CoiL
    Controversial question about VERY subjective object :D
     
  11. CoiL

    Okay, got some time to do some comparing and evaluation with HD-672.

    Notes about how HD-672 was compared against Fidelio X1:
    1) Using 4-layer kitchen paper between driver housing and pads fabric to tame highs peak.
    2) Using aftermarket non-angled velour pads (very soft velour fabric and very comfy).
    3) Using "fit-rings" cut from original pads to improve fit of velour pads and gap-filling
    of removable pad discs.
    4) Venting holes of driver housing plate under pads disc closed with tape.

    Test songs (FLAC 16/44):
    A Perfect Circle - Eat The Elephant
    Bruce Soord - Cut The Flowers
    Heilung LIFA - Fylgija / Futhorck LIVE
    Lifesigns - Different
    Tesseract - Smile
    TOOL - Pneuma

    Test gear:
    Aune T1 (hardware modified):
    Main power supply capacitors - Panasonic FR
    Secondary power supply capacitors - ELNA SilmicII (black/gold)
    Headphone amplifier coupling capacitors - ELNA SilmicII (black/gold)
    Headphone amplifier rail voltage capacitors - ELNA SilmicII (black/gold)
    HO opamp upgrade (roll-able): OPA2228PA
    DAC differential opamp upgrade (roll-able): OPA1692IDR
    CMC gold plated OFC pins ceramic socket
    Main tube - Siemens/Halske E88CC goldpin
    USB data cable +5V power rail disabled
    Software - ASIO4ALL > Musicbee
    Using HO @ medium-gain - vol. @ about 45%

    Fidelio X1 (dual cable entry modified) + custom low impedance copper Litz cable (DIY CC1HP)

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Sub-bass:
    X1 has more sub-bass extension/reach and percussions seem more deep & "lively"
    HD-672 sounds tad more balanced/neutral in that department but lacks those deep
    deep drums hits and rumble/reverb, though it doesn`t seem to lack sub-bass without
    such head-to-head comparison and still sounds pretty good.


    bass (mid-bass):

    X1 has more natural timbre and hit in percussions.
    X1 has tad more quantity in mid-bass.
    HD-672 has little more clarity due to less mid-bass but doesn`t sound
    so "lively" and also some instruments timbre naturality somewhat "suffer" due to this.
    Bass tightness and speed are pretty good though.


    mids:

    X1 has more natural timbre in mids and more natural sounding.
    Better acoustic guitar. More natural piano and vocals.



    highs:

    X1 has more natural and smoother highs.
    HD-672 has spike-hill at highs and without little/simple modification it is too much and gets annoying.
    Still, with mods, cymbals/hi-hat/snare seem slightly "artificial" and too "sizzly & dry" at times with some songs. Experimenting with different placement and amount of filtering could improve it somewhat.
    Otherwise highs details and resolution is pretty good.



    treble-extension (air and micro details):
    X1 has noticeably more open/airy and surrounding soundscape, more soundstage depth.
    Live recordings more real sounding.



    imaging/presentation/soundscape:

    X1 has more enveloping and natural imaging/presentation.
    HD-672 is pretty good in soundstage width and instrument separation/layering but X1
    is just noticeably better.



    Improvements & tips:

    Get velour pads but not too high (distance from skin contact surface to driver) and not
    too firm. Best is probably angled pads similar to AKG K7** series. Average or smaller head-sized
    ppl should go with these kind of pads.

    Over average size head-size ppl, when using velour pads (like I linked before)
    get improvement from little stronger clamp force which helps
    with perceived timbre/tonality naturalness and mids. Using non-angled and higher/softer
    velour pads are recommended in this case.

    Stock silicone pads are actually very good with getting fit and have better
    sound isolation than velours but I personally didn`t like the feel of material against my skin.
    Some ppl are probably fine with this and might even prefer those sound/isolation-wise to velours.

    HD-672 needs some paper layers filtering under pads fabric (easy to do and adjust to person liking)
    to damper highs peak and improve overall tonality balance of FR.

    It might get some improvement from cups inner surface dampening (needs confirmation).

    It might benefit from thicker/more stranded full-copper cable (needs confirmation).


    Overall build quality, fit & comfort:

    Build quality is very good for 25€. Seem to be improvement over HD-681 for sure but only time will
    tell about durability (to me it seems to beat older versions).
    Fit is great and cups have enough angle-movement on every axis to get good fit.
    Clamp force is average and good for average-size head.
    Cable quality seems much better than older versions but atm have no idea about conductivity (Ohm)
    and AWG/core/strand count. When I do more mods and replace cable, will post measurements and findings.


    Conclusion:
    Well worth the money if modified littlebit and it doesn`t have so typical overdone clear V-shaped FR signature.
    I would say pretty well balanced sound signature if You get rid of that spike at highs with simple modding(filtering).

    Fidelio X1 still way better with that gear but I give thumbs-up to HD-672 - for such money - no regrets.

    Hope it helped someone :wink:
     
    Last edited: Dec 27, 2019
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  12. SoundChoice
    Did you ever find an upgrade to the ZX1?
     
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  13. baskingshark
    Nope, but if u find the holy grail of CHIFI headphones please let me know!
     
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  14. audioffile
    Can anyone recommend cheap (<$50) on-ear cans for commuting? Good isolation is required. Earcups must pivot.

    My (quite old now) MEElectronics HT-21s are having wiring issues from L to R and I'm not confident I can replace that wire myself, so I would like to buy something to replace. I'm seeing lots of recommendations here for open and semi-open and that just won't do for riding the subway/bus. Many thanks in advance.

    [EDIT3] The HT-21 that I'm replacing is a $20 on-ear (not over-ear) mini-can (with a cup diameter a little under 6cm). They lean toward tight bass (Fiio E3 pumps it back up, but I don't use an amp on my commute). I expect with a fully closed full-size I will get better isolation and bass, but part of me still prefers the portability of mini-cans. Is there anything worth trying in the smaller size range?

    [EDIT1] Has anyone tried the Xiaomi Mi Headphones Comfort? Found just one external review: https://www.thephonograph.net/xiaomi-mi-headphones-comfort-relaxed-tdser02jy-review/

    [EDIT2] Leaning toward Takstar Pro 82, which seems to be a community favorite here. Closed design. A little over my target price. Is there anything below $50 that competes?
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2019
  15. jasswolf
    No, just make sure you spend the small amount extra for decent QA from TakstarAudio store (not Takstar Official, as that hasn't been vetted). Just keep in mind if the source material or DAC you're dealing with is average, the Pro 82 will show this quite clearly due to its clarity.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32808454492.html

    As per the Takstar Pro 82 thread, you should be able to knock $5 off (I think?), and then more if you have a valid coupon (new users get some, others might be available online), and that should take it below $50. Just use the standard shipping option, they do a great job of packaging it all up to keep it protected and it arrives promptly.

    If you're looking at IEMs, it's a different story, but you'll find yourself fumbling around with changing tips on a lot of the recommendations right now.

    cc @MoshiMoshi, who was asking for a recommendation as well.
     
    Last edited: Dec 29, 2019
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