Chinese / Asian Brand IEM Info Thread
Sep 27, 2018 at 4:00 PM Post #18,511 of 33,689
Nice to know that.. i love all kinds of rock as well.. ill try to check them out. I just want something that is fun to listen.. something with that crisp bass kick but still in the neutral side.. with good detailing and dont do much color to the song..
The B400 are definitely worth checking out for your requirements then. They also respond very well to eq if you want to tweak them in any way. Good luck on your search, and I hope you find something enjoyable to you!
 
Sep 27, 2018 at 4:11 PM Post #18,513 of 33,689
I wouldn't say it's higher treble. It's more balanced treble.

The T2 and T2 Pro have similar lower treble/upper mid response but the T2 drops off in the mid-to-upper treble region (i.e. rolls off), and I think that makes the lower treble (upper vocal range) sound more harsh. The T2 Pro extends the treble in the frequencies above this, and I think that balances out the sound more.

That said, if you find the T2 harsh, you may still find the Pro harsh too. It really depends what you listen to. I dont listen to EDM anymore, and I know music like that totally exaggerates both the deep lows and upper treble to the point of near or already distortion. It would probably sound bad on the T2 Pro.

On that note, I got some Westone musician ear plugs for concerts. I wore them with over-ear headphones on and played some EDM tracks and they actually sounded decent with the ear plugs on... No more harsh treble!

Just out of interest, what genres of music do you listen to with the T2 Pro? I have just ordered myself a pair from Massdrop, with some persuasion from your review! I've also been listening to EDM a lot less recently, replacing it with alternative, electronica, rock, jazz and classical music. Wondering how the T2 Pros handles these genres, if you have any thoughts?
 
Sep 27, 2018 at 4:43 PM Post #18,514 of 33,689
Would you guys like it? (mmcx + 2pins)

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Sep 27, 2018 at 5:25 PM Post #18,515 of 33,689
Just out of interest, what genres of music do you listen to with the T2 Pro? I have just ordered myself a pair from Massdrop, with some persuasion from your review! I've also been listening to EDM a lot less recently, replacing it with alternative, electronica, rock, jazz and classical music. Wondering how the T2 Pros handles these genres, if you have any thoughts?

I listen to really everything. Lately, I've been listening to rock, indie rock, post-rock, country/folk, classical and jazz mostly.

Some example bands I listen on my daily playlist the past month are: Radiohead, Olafur Arnalds, Cigarettes after Sex, Vince Guaraldi, Balhmorea, Explosions in the Sky, Chris Stapleton, Jason Isbell, Tegan and Sara, Daft Punk, Haelos, Vok, Sigur Ros, Chvrches, U137, The Roots, Chromatics, etc.
 
Sep 27, 2018 at 5:40 PM Post #18,517 of 33,689
I wouldn't say it's higher treble. It's more balanced treble.

The T2 and T2 Pro have similar lower treble/upper mid response but the T2 drops off in the mid-to-upper treble region (i.e. rolls off), and I think that makes the lower treble (upper vocal range) sound more harsh. The T2 Pro extends the treble in the frequencies above this, and I think that balances out the sound more.

That said, if you find the T2 harsh, you may still find the Pro harsh too. It really depends what you listen to. I dont listen to EDM anymore, and I know music like that totally exaggerates both the deep lows and upper treble to the point of near or already distortion. It would probably sound bad on the T2 Pro.

On that note, I got some Westone musician ear plugs for concerts. I wore them with over-ear headphones on and played some EDM tracks and they actually sounded decent with the ear plugs on... No more harsh treble!
Would you guys like it? (mmcx + 2pins)
It would be good for redundancy I guess if one of the sockets failed you would have the alternative as a backup.
 
Sep 27, 2018 at 6:32 PM Post #18,519 of 33,689
Whats the best sub $200 iem can you guys recommend.

Neutral but in the fun side and not the analytic ones. Does it Make sense?

I love my HiFi Boy OSv3's and have the BGVP DMG 2DD+4BA Hybrid Drivers In-Ear Earphone that arriving in next few days since the typhoon in Asia has messed up the shipping out of China and considering going for the BGVP DM6 5 Balanced Armature. All 3 of these are under $200 .

I amazed how great these sound for so little money.
 
Sep 27, 2018 at 6:41 PM Post #18,520 of 33,689
Hey, for anyone interested, the official Tennmak store on Amazon has some great deals right now. A few of their IEMs have a 50% off coupon!!

For example, the Trio is $25 after coupon. So is the Crazy Cello (which is an awesome IEM). Not sure if there’s other models included in the 50% off sale, as all I was interested in was the Crazy Cellos.

The prices on the Trio and Crazy Cello are legit good deals though. On Aliexpress (and Amazon) they are normally $50-$60. So $25 on Amazon is a heck of a deal, especially because there’s no 4-6 week shipping wait from China.

No clue how many they have left, but if you have been on the fence about any Tennmak stuff, or waiting for a good deal, this would be it.

Also, another member shared an Amazon deal on the TRN v10 for $9.99. I know the reviews were mixed on the v10, but $10 is a great price if not strictly for the cable (which sells by itself for $5-$6ish). Buy them for the cable, or for donor shells, or correct the sibilant stock tuning by doing a foam mod to the BAs. Either way, $10 is a good deal.
 
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Sep 27, 2018 at 8:42 PM Post #18,521 of 33,689
I love my HiFi Boy OSv3's and have the BGVP DMG 2DD+4BA Hybrid Drivers In-Ear Earphone that arriving in next few days since the typhoon in Asia has messed up the shipping out of China and considering going for the BGVP DM6 5 Balanced Armature. All 3 of these are under $200 .

I amazed how great these sound for so little money.

Hi! I was also looking on those iem.. mainly the OsV3 and DM6. But im still waiting for some comparison of the two. If the DM6 is worth to get with the price gap..

Will u be getting the DM6 as well? And maybe u can share ur thoughts on the OSV3 and DMG once u got it.. really looking for that bang for the buck all rounder mid-fi..
 
Sep 27, 2018 at 8:57 PM Post #18,522 of 33,689
Whats the best sub $200 iem can you guys recommend.

Neutral but in the fun side and not the analytic ones. Does it Make sense?

i haven't heard the B400, but i really do enjoy the Hisenior B5+. i could say it is currently my most used iem

I wouldn't say it's higher treble. It's more balanced treble.

The T2 and T2 Pro have similar lower treble/upper mid response but the T2 drops off in the mid-to-upper treble region (i.e. rolls off), and I think that makes the lower treble (upper vocal range) sound more harsh. The T2 Pro extends the treble in the frequencies above this, and I think that balances out the sound more.

That said, if you find the T2 harsh, you may still find the Pro harsh too. It really depends what you listen to. I dont listen to EDM anymore, and I know music like that totally exaggerates both the deep lows and upper treble to the point of near or already distortion. It would probably sound bad on the T2 Pro.

On that note, I got some Westone musician ear plugs for concerts. I wore them with over-ear headphones on and played some EDM tracks and they actually sounded decent with the ear plugs on... No more harsh treble!

thanks for clarifying. i agree, what makes the T2 sound harsh is because the upper treble seems cut. based on your description T2 Pro i imagine would be more smoothly extended. but i think even if i do get one, i would still do the mod to reduce the quantity a bit :dt880smile:

@chinmie have you received your pair Kanas pro? how does it sound? and compared to the regular kanas, how is it different?

i have auditioned the Kanas pro and compare them to my Kanas a few months ago and posted my opinion on them.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chi...hones-and-iems.820747/page-1152#post-14427053

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chi...hones-and-iems.820747/page-1083#post-14326750

i ended up staying with the Regular Kanas but using the Kanas Pro cable
 
Sep 27, 2018 at 11:53 PM Post #18,523 of 33,689
Sep 27, 2018 at 11:58 PM Post #18,524 of 33,689
wrote my little write-up review & quick FR graph/measurements on the TRN V80: https://www.antdroid.net/2018/09/trn-v80-heavy-metal.html


The main points of the review:

Comparisons

Tin Audio T2
The T2 has a more analytical, colder sound to it. The bass sounds more linear on the T2 vs the V80, which has a more full and warmer sound to it. The T2 mids and lower treble are excellent for this price range and the V80 is nearly there. Where the V80 excels over the T2 is the extended treble, which gives the upper range frequency extra air and depth.




Tin Audio T2 Pro
The upcoming T2 Pro, again, is more colder sounding than the V80 and shares many of the same comparisons as the T2 vs V80. Where the T2 Pro differs is the upper treble extension. The T2 rolls off in this region, whereas the V80 does not. That said, the T2 Pro extends better with more air, depth, control, and details than the V80. The Pro is the head of the class for me for the budget IEM group.


MiniDSP IDF Compensated Comparison


KZ AS10
Spending a little bit more to get the AS10 over V80 will net you more bass and more mid-range and lower treble details. That said, the AS10 may sound muddy in comparison to the V80 because it has more pronounced bass. It’s usually not an issue on the AS10 but if you were to A-B back and forth, you may pick up on some of the upper bass overpowering the lower mids due to the AS10 having a slightly U-shape/recessed mids – where as the V80 has a more mid-forward presentation. The V80 has more air, though the AS10 is more in control in the mids and treble.

KZ ZSA/ZS6
I am grouping these together because, to me, they are similar in sound signature, with the ZS6 being more extreme on the low and upper ends of the spectrum than the ZSA. The KZ pair is more V-shaped, and with that you’ll have deeper, heavier bass, and harsher treble. It’ll give you a fun presentation vs the V80. I think in terms of technicality, the V80 wins. It is smoother all around and has good detail, even in comparison to the ZS6, which has good detail but too sibilant.

Overall
I found the TRN V80 a good IEM. It has some flaws in it, mainly due to some uneven sound in the mids. The neutral-warm sound is inviting and easy to enjoy though, as is the comfort and look. The package as a whole is a budget IEM that I find myself leaving in my ear for hours without any pain or significant issues in sound. I still find the T2 Pro a better option in this price point, but I’d take this V80 over anything that KZ offers today.
 
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