Cheap DVD as transport??
May 24, 2003 at 2:43 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 11

dudlew

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Would a cheap DVD player, the likes of a Philips 723AT or any other in the $100 price range with coaxial out, be a better transport for my DAC than what I have now? I am really peaved at my changer and would like to replace it. Now that I have a DAC with coaxial and balanced ins, do you think it is worth spending $100 - $150 on a cheap DVD player as a transport? or should I just save my money and get something a bit more?


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May 25, 2003 at 12:30 AM Post #2 of 11
I'd try a NAD 521 for a replacement, its about 210.00 on some sights. Single tray, build quality is very good,(coaxial digital output) or step up to a NAD 541i. I really don't beleive in DVD/CD combos, compromise is always bulit in, and usually at the expense of redbook CD sound. I do beleive for a budget player, this should meet your needs. Chances are you might not need to use your DAC with this player, But you can.
 
May 25, 2003 at 1:45 AM Post #3 of 11
Though I don't have a tremendous basis for comparission, as far as transports go, the Pioneer DVD players I've had expereince with have done respectably. I've got a DV-434 paired with an MSB Link I, and it does a descent job.

A word of warning, some of the models (such as the 414) have problems reading readbooks and can become extrodinarily fustrating to use.
 
May 25, 2003 at 6:47 AM Post #4 of 11
I use the Sony DVP-PQ1 all the time as my transport into a MSB Link DAC III. I would make two points:

- It depends on the DAC. DVD players are notorious for having higher jitter than CD players, in general. Some DAC's are better than others at the input buffer in being more or less impervious to jitter. The MSB is above average, but it still benefits from a better transport. When I use my Rega Planet pre-2K, it does sound a lot better. That said, if you don't believe in jitter (or, more importantly, if you can't hear the difference), then that shouldn't matter.

- I forget my other point. I think it was "it depends on the DVD player". But I already made that point.
 
May 25, 2003 at 7:25 AM Post #5 of 11
dudlew,
i'm considering your option too.
i guess you don't mind about its image quality...just play redbooks and mp3 maybe,right?

can someone tell me if there's a CDP that plays mp3, have coaxial and optical out (for MD recording) and is small?
something like all of those flat DVD's..
sorry for being a bit off topic
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May 25, 2003 at 12:25 PM Post #6 of 11
Another vote for the Pioneer DVD players, I myself use one as a transport and it does a fine job. Moreover, I know people who use them with higher end DAC's than the one I own, such as the TAG DAC20, and they say it does as good job as any dedicated CD player, in the context of a transport.
 
May 25, 2003 at 1:54 PM Post #7 of 11
Instead of a DVD player, try the Marantz CD4000. Very cheap, very fast read times, you can even fast forward. I've had very good experiences with it as a transport. Respond very well to isolation and tweaks. Tried the former but only heard the latter. Most of the higher end Marantzs like the 5000, 6000 and above uses the exact same transport.
 
May 25, 2003 at 2:15 PM Post #8 of 11
I used to use a Pioneer DV-343, and it worked well enough.
 
May 25, 2003 at 10:19 PM Post #9 of 11
It is great to get good replies Adam, you are partly right. I am, at present, concerned about redbook replay, but would consider usind it as a dvd player in the future as well. I would like it to serve a dual role when the need arises.

I am particularly interested in the coaxial out of these players. It is rare to find a redbook cd player for so cheap that has coaxial outs.

A little bit off topic........ with optical outs, if there is a blemish on the cd, does it affect the optical beam so to speak? I have noticed that since i have hooked up my DAC, there are instances where a song would cut out briefly and for that brief moment the data valid light on my DAC flashes off.
Is this a fault of optical outs or is it a fault of my cd player or of the DAC?

Sorry for the straying.
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May 26, 2003 at 7:44 AM Post #10 of 11
Quote:

Originally posted by dudlew
A little bit off topic........ with optical outs, if there is a blemish on the cd, does it affect the optical beam so to speak? I have noticed that since i have hooked up my DAC, there are instances where a song would cut out briefly and for that brief moment the data valid light on my DAC flashes off.
Is this a fault of optical outs or is it a fault of my cd player or of the DAC?


That's odd. My "data valid" light shows on all the time when I'm playing a CD (out of my CD player). I'll have to compare that to my DVD player...
 
May 27, 2003 at 5:12 PM Post #11 of 11
Dud,

I recommend a used Pioneer CD player with the Stable Platter Mechanism. The PD-59 and PD-65 are almost always available on Audiogon. The Stable Platter Mechanism is a little rubber turntable that supports the CD completely— the disc goes on label side down, as the laser mechanism is above.

I was using a Denon CDM-370 carousel as a transport feeding a Muse Model 2 external DAC. When I went to a Pioneer with the Stable Platter Mechanism as my transport, I could hear an immediate improvement in the sound— blacker background, more bass and more depth overall. I highly recommend it.
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See it here, used in a $5,300 Wadia CD player.
http://cgi.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.p...lay&1057606848
 

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