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Cayin i5 Lossless Android DAP with AKM4490 DAC supporting 32/384 PCM + 64/128 DSD

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by nmatheis, Mar 21, 2016.
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  1. Andykong
    The background noise issue related to both impedance and sensitivity of the IEM. please provide more information or the actual model if possible.

    We just send an i5 to Neutron Music Player for evaluation /testing, there is very good chance that Neutron can build an custom driver to enable Hi-Res support to i5 in their next upgrade. Work in progress so that's about all I can disclose at this point. :beerchug:
     
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    http://en.cayin.cn/
  2. Robert777
    Thank you @Andykong for replying over the Christmas holiday. Do not forget to have a break from work.

    My earphones are:

    Sensitivity: 110dB at 1 kHz
    Impedance: 18 Ohms

    I have the Cayin N3 and my new earphones are quite rolled in the treble so I find that they are not the best match.

    I hope to stay with Cayin so I have the i5, N6 or the new N5ii to choose from.

    I was going to go for the i5 as it just looks so awesome but I worry that it may not be the best synergy either.

    That leaves the N6 or the N5ii. I think the N6 will provide the best synergy I am looking for but I worry as it is three years old now. That is a long time in DAP time.

    I am kind of just thinking out loud here, so sorry for cluttering up this thread, but any thoughts on the i5 driving darker earphones would be most welcome.

    Thank you.
     
  3. Vitalii
    This is really very good news:beerchug:
     
  4. bluedolphin
    My New Blue Leather Case for Cayin i5 Finaly Arrived from Asia
    I like it very much, Came with a brown nice bag, Very good
    Photos of my Cayin Leather bag I took today. Me happy

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  5. chicken beer
    May I ask where I could download the 2.3 beta firmware version for i5? It couldn't be found anywhere...
     
  6. bluedolphin
    I Made some More Photos of my New Cayin i5 Leather case
    It do perfect complement for my Cayin i5, hope you like it
    This leather case i am very happy with, Cayin i5 marvellous good sound

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    This is Cayin with Denon Ah-mm400 headphones and The purple marble headphones
    are Fostex Kotori 201 special v.i.p order from Fostex Japan team that customized colors for me

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  7. Andykong
    Cayin Stay updated on Cayin at their sponsor page on Head-Fi.
     
    http://en.cayin.cn/
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  8. Andykong
    I don't recommend you go for N6 unless you have heard it in person and really like its sound. N6 is for sure not an updated DAP, its only strength is impeccable audio performance at its price. Cayin has deliberately go for a lower than normal pricing when we enter the DAP business back in 2014, and in the past few years we have seen the price of DAPs goes up and N6 has been discounted, so the N6 does offer very good price performance on audio performance. However the user control, portability and battery duration are relatively weak when compare to a modern DAP.

    My guiess is i5 will hiss slightly with your earphone, you won't notice it at normal listening, but if you try to look for the background noise through special listening setup, or your music preference involve a lot of silent passage (in Classicl or Opera music), the background noise might be a problem. Gapless in i5 is not perfect, but you can install Neutron Music Player for that if gapless is important.

    N5ii will not hiss with your earphone for sure. It is not as warm sounding as i5, but offer excellent resolution and is well extended in the high frequency range. From functional point of view, N5ii is a better DAP then i5,
     
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  10. Andykong
    Cayin Stay updated on Cayin at their sponsor page on Head-Fi.
     
    http://en.cayin.cn/
  11. frost15
    Very good news Andy. Testing it soon. This excellent announcement makes me wonder... Would it be posible to replace Cayin i5 default audio app with neutron in a future firmware?
     
  12. Andykong
    Can't do that, because i5 adopted a fully customized closed system approached, it is very different form the open system approach Android DAP where users get access to the Android desktop. In i5, when you start up the DAP the system go will straight into HiBy app, event the opening screen (where you select internal memory or TF card) is part of HiBy Music App. If we need to replace the default audio app, we need to change i5 to open system approach and land at the Android desktop instead of the HiBy app directly. The changes will be too significant and might end up a new round of system bugs as we need to change the architecture level.
     
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    http://en.cayin.cn/
  13. frost15
    I see Andy. It's a shame since after some testing Neutron works AMAZING with the i5. I'm completely in love with it. The only downside I've witnessed so far was scanning time, were it was way slower than the default unit scanner. Gapless works like a charm now and given all the options available in the app (album sorted by year at last!!!) I must say that Neutron is a must have for every i5 owner who wants to get the most out of it.
     
  14. Vitalii
    I did not like the quality of playback with Neutron
    With HiBy, the sound is much cleaner and better.
    p.s. I'm listening to it on the Denon AH-D7200
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2018
  15. nmatheis Contributor
    I've been testing out the new Neutron app on my i5 and have some likes/dislikes vs the stock Hiby player.

    LIKES
    True gapless
    Hi-res support
    Highly customizable sounds options

    DISLIKES
    Thinner, less dynamic sound vs stock Hiby player
    Cluttered, outdated user interface
    Finding the music library is confusing
    Scanning the music library is slow

    For now, I'm continuing to use the stock Hiby player because it just sounds better even though true gapless support is very important to me. Hopefully Neutron's sound will improve over time, coming into better alignment with the stock Hiby player. Just my two cents...
     
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