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Cayin i5 Lossless Android DAP with AKM4490 DAC supporting 32/384 PCM + 64/128 DSD

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by nmatheis, Mar 21, 2016.
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  1. smy1

    I had a issue with my FiiO dap, after passing 1000 songs my FiiO would take forever to load my SD card maybe 10 sec wait. But the cayin does the same thing. When I tap the memory on the home screen where it leads to the songs, I have to double tap it maybe 4 times before it loads.

    I have a Samsung evo ad card
  2. canali
    Thanks for the feedback but I am not interested in DSD because there's not a lot of material out there really... and for high res yes I am interested ..I play my 24/192 files on the ipod touch 6 thru the Onkyo HF player app (HD version @ $10...I think it can do DSD too...has tons of  EQ settings, too etc)
    ...Plus my ipod touch 6 seamlessly plays my tidal hifi..both streaming and in offline modes.
    when the mojo or better sound can come in a DAP under 1k and do tidal hi fi etc, then i'll be interested.
  3. Andykong

    Glad to have another i5 owner sharing his impression and experience with us. :beerchug:

    First of all, if the noise issue from i5 + SE846 is not an issue to you, that's very good, don't bother with it, and don't eve try to LOOK for the background noise again. The biggest problem of background noise is, once you spotted it, you'll unconsciously look for it again, and again, and again, and finally affected your mood to enjoy music.

    Trust me, not look for it again. :D
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  4. Andykong

    Oop, you are correct, my mistake indeed. Because the 851N is a network player, normally we use it as a source instead of using it as a DAC.

    You mentioned you had used the i5 to work with other device, including your mobile phone, so that is referring to using the i5 as transport and your mobile phone as external DAC? I am a bit peculiar with this as well, because once again we use the mobile phone as source rather DAC.

    If you have successfully used the i5 as source feeding to external DAC, that means (1) the new firmware is working (2) your i5 can USB cables are functioning correctly and (3) you have set the USB mode correctly, (4) the USB audio bitstream is output correctly.

    Some questions to debug the setup:
    (1) Did you use the same USB cable?
    (2) any USB adapter is used in the connection with 851N?
    (3) Did 851N lock with the i5 correctly? If the 851 has detected the i5, the first thing it will do is to detect the clock signal of the i5 and lock the sync, and display the word depth and bit rate (e.g., 16bit/44.1kHz) on the display. some DAC will turn on a LED indicator when it locked with a digital signal source.
    (4) Have you tried to use the USB Audio input of 851N with other USB source such as your computer?
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  5. NGGG
    Yes, I would like to use i5 as source feeding to an external DAC. My answers to your questions are as below:
    (1) and (2) I used the same USB cable. No adapter added when connected to other devices, but Type C adapter added for connection with i5.
    (3) 851N cannot lock with i5. Same for my old DAC, ie Musiland MD10.
    (4) both 851N and Musiland MD10 work fine with my mobile and laptop.

    I will try to install the firmware again, but needs wait i5 to recharge up to at least 50%.
  6. Joe Bloggs Contributor

    Before you do that, can you try to connect the i5 to the DAC while i5 is powered on and the "USB" USB mode is chosen? I was told this is the mode to select for USB DAC *output* (rather than "DAC" mode, which is for inputting to use the i5 as DAC, as it's always been).
  7. NGGG
    Tried again but still unable to lock.
  8. Andykong

    Looks like I has misunderstood your original post completely. So you haven't used USB Audio out function of i5 successful? When I read "it works properly with USB connections with other devices (including my mobile)", I thought you are referring to i5 is working properly.

    In this case, we have to start all over again.

    Joe and kel77 have provided one good advice: you need to select USB mode if you want to use i5 as digital source for external DAC device.

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  9. smy1

    So if I just want to use the i5 as my main player should I do USB or DAC like listing to musics on the go?
  10. kel77

    Doesn't matter either modes are OK.
  11. NGGG
    Still not work [​IMG]  
    Anyway, I will try to install the new firmware again tomorrow.
  12. Joe Bloggs Contributor

    What's the cabling between the two? i5->USB-C OTG adapter->regular USB cable->DAC?
  13. frost15
    I have some covers bigger than 1000x1000... That might be the real issue. Anyway I've not experienced the same problem again :)
  14. frost15
    Well, that depends. Are you going to use it connected to a external dac? Then use USB mode. If on the contrary you want to use it as the dac itself, choose dac mode.
  15. frost15
    100% right Andy.
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