CanJam New York 2025 Impressions Thread (February 22-23, 2025)

Feb 25, 2025 at 11:41 AM Post #256 of 430
CanJam NYC 2025

New York has always been my favorite place in the world. The mix of cultures and food, all the different languages being spoken, all of the different shops on every street corner, the insane pace that the city moves, all of the shortcomings of living in the city, and all of the benefits... I don't think there's another city on Earth, certainly not in the US, that fully embraces the definition of a 'melting pot'.


I love it more than I express. Being from a major US city myself, Boston, I can fit right in with the crowd in NY, it's a little more intense than up here in Boston, that's for sure, but it's not some tall feat and I definitely don't feel out of my element. However... **CanJam** always makes me feel out of my element. The overwhelming amount of people, things to try, sights, and sounds is most definitely something every Audiophile should experience at least once in their life! It's an attack on the senses and I got to experience it again just a few days ago, so, here's my experience at CanJam NYC 2025!

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Symphonium Giant - Very warm and extremely pleasing to the ear, these were a great listen! If I had to make a comparison to something a bit older, I'd say these are similar to the Meteors but with a bit more resolution and overall space within notes and less spice on the back end of the treble. Speaking of the treble, it's extremely smooth and similar to that of a Thie house sound with a bit more dynamics thrown in the mix.

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Symphonium Prototype (all BA) - Slightly bright leaning but extreme techs. The resolution is off the charts but in a much more pleasing way than that of an overly bright set. Felix said they were going for a set similar to the Helios with a bit more bass and upgraded treble smoothness. I think they succeeded. Impressive bass for all BA. Timbre is on point. Smooth as silk.

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iBasso DC Elite - @Jaytiss is right, this thing is a bit overrated… I’m glad I got to demo it before dropping $400+ on it. I have to be honest, it’s so similar to the BTR17 in terms of overall tonality and presentation. Details come off maybe a touch more effortless and spaced out on the DCE, but not nowhere near double the price worth. The build quality is very nice and the volume wheel is extremely tactile and is clearly nicer than the FiiO but, outside of that, I can’t see the benefit. Maybe I need more time with it but on the initial listen, my expectations were not met, but that's on me. I think they were too high to begin with...

iBasso Nunchaku - The tube mode is maybe a touch warmer compared to the AB mode, with some extra weight in the mids. The bass extension is very nice and the separation is quite on point. Good stuff 🤙

Basso DC07 - extremely solid little dongle with slightly pushed upper mids and good bass extension. The volume wheel feels super cheap, though. On such a small device maybe buttons should have been the way to go. Separation is very good, and so is a mid-bass thump. I’d say this outright beats the BTR17 in terms of pure SQ, but it does lack all of the features for the same price... Trade-off? (I ended up buying one with more listening time lol)

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M15i - This is clearly more focused on delivering technicalities rather than a musical signature. The bass thump is a lot less emphasized compared to the DC07 but the upper mids are pushed a little towards the glare-y side. I much prefer the DC07 for the more musical approach but I can appreciate the focus on the technicalities.

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Kiwi Ears x HBB Punch - These were kind of a disappointment, I can’t lie. Within 30 seconds, I took them out of my ears. The slightly strange tonality and sub-bass rumble was not up to where I was expecting it to be. I fully expect I need more time with these, at home, properly tip rolling and proper source rolling. Just by looking at the graph and reading reviews online, these should of been a home run for me. Go figure...

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Thieaudio Origin - These were more my speed for sure. The talk about the bass being bouncy and elastic is 100% true. It really is bouncy and elastic and natural, that DD+BCD is working. I can definitely feel the vibrations in those sub-bass rumbles. Or maybe that’s just the DD doing its thing… either way, really nice. But the Titans still reign supreme for me. I think it just comes down to the actual bass tactility and speed. The Origin had more of a lingering bass note, whereas the Titans have a faster in-and-out type of approach where the mids and treble are almost not affected at all.

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Thieaudio Valhalla - oh my goodness…. Best in show so far for me. Unreal vocal texturing, I mean, genuinely some of the best vocal reproduction I’ve heard to date. Rivaling the Diva, Mona 2s, DMs, and anything in between. Bouncy and tight bass impact with perfectly placed sub-bass rumble for the rest of the mix. Treble detail and timbre are pretty much off the charts. I am smitten… too bad they’re $2k!

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These have seen some use...

Letshuoer C12 - God damn these are quite good. They weren't the newest version unfortunately, Joesph didn’t have them on hand. It’s a shame they don’t make these anymore because they’re lovely. Warmish without sacrificing on techs. In fact, they’re quite technical, with great staging and super engaging bass. I wouldn’t say these are the last words in mid-range texturing and res, but the overall signature is very pleasing.

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Not the final design.

Letshuoer S16 - These are a new Prototype Planar from LetShuoer and right off the bat I can say that they’re warm with fast transients and good bass tactility. I’m not sensitive to planar timbre so take this with a grain of salt but the overall timbre and tonality are very pleasing. Good techs, of course. Slight glare in the upper mids on the highest of notes. Really good bass texture and impact, like, impressively good.


Elysian didn't have a Diva on hand... they let me know that they're being phased out... :(

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Elysian Anni 2023 - as good as I remembered it… every bit as incredible. Still one of my top dogs.

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Elyisan Apostle - Kind of flat and not as dynamic as I’d like. It’s going for a neutral with a bass boost kind of sound and for $700 less, I’d go for a Thie set around $1k. Layering is impressive, and vocal clarity is good, but the texture is not particularly a stand-out if I’m honest. Hmmm, I'm not so sure, there doesn't seem to be anything special here imo.

(a few minutes later....)

The more I let them settle in, I can understand why these are priced the way they are. They’re a slow burn. Layering and resolution are actually impressive. It’s an effortless approach here and it takes time for your brain to adapt. For my HRTF, stage depth and instrument separation might be some of the best I’ve heard without forcing any part of the FR.

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UM Maven II - as soon as I pressed play I thought, “These are fun” - big, dynamic sound on these that sounds incredibly fun. Treble is just the right amount of splashy without sounding brittle or harsh in any way. The bass is sufficiently punchy, it has a great thump behind the initial attack (which is a little blunted). The resolution is fantastic, stage depth and width for my HRTF are pretty great. Love the looks and build quality of these, too.

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UM Stardust - The new entry-level set from UM and it’s great. Warm leaning with hefty vocals and well-extended but slightly subdued treble response. I enjoy it. The bass is on the blunted side if I’m completely honest but the upper mids and lower treble are slightly forward in a really wonderful way. These are another sick-looking IEM... I like this design language UM is going for!

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UM Prototype QUADbrid - DD/BA/EST/BCD - these are going for a reference style tonality with texture and resolution all over the place. From the bass to the mids to the treble there are tons of details to be had. Enjoyable IEM, but for $3k+, I’d happily skip it. They don’t sound… “special” but I can see where someone would fall in love.

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UM Mest Jet Black - The stage depth and width is kind of absurd on these. At least to my HRTF. instrument separation is immediately jumping out at me as impressive and not like anything I’ve listened to today so far. Not to mention, they are like jewelry. Very good-looking IEM. The cable needs a lot of work, though, it felt cheap and thin and very tangly. These scale like crazy, smaller details are cutting through the entire mix with ease and I’m picking up on those smaller details for the first time. Very cool. I dig these. The bass texture is on point. I could use a little more I suppose but the upper mids aren’t boosted and out of line so the bass level is probably perfect for the rest of the FR. I really like these. The Ceramic shell feels uber premium and extremely comfortable for my ears to boot!

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Flipears Legion - WOAH. This is the craziest implementation of a BCD I’ve ever experienced and it’s not even close LOL they sound like a big, bold V-shaped tuning with crazy powerful slam in the mid-bass and slightly too-forward vocals but holy bananas is that BCD nuts!!! These are fun as hell. The aesthetics are still polarizing to me, I'm not the biggest fan but I also don't hate it. I can most certainly appreciate the craftsmanship though. Especially for a set under $1000!

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Supernova Prototype - These were smooth as silk. Timbre is as good if not better than my Monarch mk2 across the FR. Bass is nicely implemented and well-balanced within the mix. The treble is subtle, I could use a little more splash-up top but the resolution is extremely well done. Overall a balanced sound signature tilting more on the warm side with a mid-bass punch. Overall really nice. Not flat sounding while still being very balanced. There is a small vent facing the ear on these as well, I tried to take a pic to show ya'll. The guys from Bloom couldn't tell me if that was similar to FiR's Kinetic bass tech, and I honestly didn't notice it too much, but I cannot 100% confirm if it's doing anything or not... still, it's interesting that they're trying something new!

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Campfire audio Clara - These were dynamic and the resolution is up there with some of the best I've heard. Mid-bass has a very respectable punch to it. I dig it. Slight glare in the upper mids/lower treble. On busy tracks, it can get congested due to that upper mids glare.

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CrinEar Project Meta - very much a Meta-tuned IEM, it lives up to its name. I will admit it is very clean, the upper mids are kept in check and the timbre is very natural. No weird peaks or anything of that nature. Not overly warm either, but still nicely clear with very good resolution. The design and stock cable feel top-notch and premium for sure. The chamfered edges on the shell are such a nice touch and when I mentioned that to Crin, he seemed proud of it so, kudos to him on that small touch.

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NightJar Duality - holy Jesus Christ. There are 2 bass settings to these and when I first listened to them, I thought it was on the “boosted bass” setting…. That should tell you everything.

In all seriousness, I can say confidently that I prefer the Titan's overall signature. The Duality is extremely, and I mean extremely warm with a massive sub-bass lift that is already almost too much on the lowest setting. On the high setting, the sub-bass is actually an incredible accomplishment in personal audio engineering. Is it too much for me? Yes absolutely. But there is 0 distortion, it is still rumbly and somewhat clean (Titan has a cleaner rumble) and details in the music aren’t completely lost, surprisingly. Overall, they made me chuckle on a few tracks. But you NEED a desktop amp to run these. Even on desktop mode with the BTR7, they weren’t being run to their full potential @ 100/120 volume. Without desktop mode just normal high gain, anything over 100/120 volume, and there was a distinct distortion on every mid-bass kick. No bueno… overall, really fun IEM. But for that money, I’d hard pass.

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OG Helios - These are WAY warmer than I expected and honestly right up my alley when it comes to tuning. The techs are off the charts, the resolution is impressive, and so is sound stage and imaging. These are similar to the Crimson in a lot of ways but they have a better fit (slight pressure on first insertion), but otherwise, no pressure builds up after about 15 minutes of listening. Sub bass is rumbly but mid-bass is slightly blunted and most would probably say they’re lacking. I really enjoy these… to the point where they might be a future purchase if I see a pair in the classifieds. I was fully expecting these to be overly bright and lacking in the bass, but I was so wrong. At least to my ears.

I also had another go at the STORM, Meteor, and Crimson while I was there hanging out with the crew from Symphonium. The STORM is... the STORM. It's incredible. The Crimson is still one of the best bright-leaning sets I've heard to this point and the Meteor... ah the Meteor. Genuinely one of my favorite IEMs I've ever listened to. The fit was better this time with the tips they had on them, but I know after a while they'll start sliding out and irritating my ears. What a shame.

In terms of listening impressions, I didn't get as much as I hoped to but that's okay, there's always next year! There were a few IEMs I really wanted another shot at though, like the stuff from Canpur, QDC, and Alpha/Omega. The Musictek table was always full of folks listening and I figured I'd better keep it moving to an open spot if I want to make good use of my 5 hours there. Still, I had a great time. The highlight of my day and the sticking memories are definitely the ones of the folks I met and took some pics with. Crin, Ted, Mark, Caleb from Bloom and the rest of their crew, Joseph from Letshuoer, and of course, the guys from Symphonium - Felix, Mikol, and Gary, thanks again for your hospitality at your booth. I spent way too much time there...

This was a long one but if you made it this far, thanks so much for reading! I hope to meet some of you guys there next year maybe. Until then, cheers.
Quality post, thanks!
I'm glad you enjoyed the Helios and surprised they fit you better than the Crimson.

How did the new Symphonium prototype compare and did they say anything about price, release date? Super interested in these if they offer something that differentiates from the Helios. The look is spot on.
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 12:13 PM Post #257 of 430
Quality post, thanks!
I'm glad you enjoyed the Helios and surprised they fit you better than the Crimson.

How did the new Symphonium prototype compare and did they say anything about price, release date? Super interested in these if they offer something that differentiates from the Helios. The look is spot on.
Thank you!
I think it might come down to the slightly longer and thicker nozzle on the Helios... but I could be wrong.

The Prototype compared to the Helios is more refined, it's slightly smoother in the treble without sacrificing on the techs but, the bass response on the Helios just stood out to me as being a little more defined. I know the price isn't going to be flagship level and it'll be around $1000. Maybe a little more. It's not finalized yet as far as I understand it and release date is soon... maybe within the next few months!
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 12:27 PM Post #258 of 430
These are some of the files I couldn't attach to my previous post...

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Did you listen to the D16? What did you think of that or any of the DAPs?
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 12:59 PM Post #259 of 430
Thank you!
I think it might come down to the slightly longer and thicker nozzle on the Helios... but I could be wrong.

The Prototype compared to the Helios is more refined, it's slightly smoother in the treble without sacrificing on the techs but, the bass response on the Helios just stood out to me as being a little more defined. I know the price isn't going to be flagship level and it'll be around $1000. Maybe a little more. It's not finalized yet as far as I understand it and release date is soon... maybe within the next few months!
Awesome thanks.
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 1:03 PM Post #260 of 430
These are some of the files I couldn't attach to my previous post...

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Thanks so much! I posted the other ones above :)

You're the man, bro. I'm just relieved you can't make it to this event because I know your impressions and photos would blown mine out of the water haha

100%. My personal rule of not spending more than $1k on a pair of IEMs is slowly being broken down...

Oh man, I'm happy someone else noticed! Last year was horrible with those bright purple lights, idk what they were thinking haha
What’s that blue sparkly symphonium iem?
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 1:07 PM Post #261 of 430
It's pretty ironic. I much prefer full-sized HP over IEM. But it's the IEMs (and portable dongle dac-amps powering them) for which I have the most opinions. I'll use the great post by 'domq422' for my few talking points. I'll mention with all the time I spent waiting for then getting measurements done (big thank you listener) , lost about 4 hrs total of show time. Probably listened to the least amount of things this time of every CanJam there has been.

BTW, hey there 'domq422' (as I'm using your great post as a focus for my talking points, and know you'll get notification :) ). Based on the selfies in the follow-up pics post I think we spoke a little; don't recall where tho. Thanx for the kind words about NYC too. :) I likewise have a real appreciation for the fine city of Boston. Oh, wait, I think it was at the CrinEars table that I saw you. I was the guy extricating himself from the table and lugging that filled big heavy bag suggesting you to take my seat.



M15i - This is clearly more focused on delivering technicalities rather than a musical signature. The bass thump is a lot less emphasized compared to the DC07 but the upper mids are pushed a little towards the glare-y side. I much prefer the DC07 for the more musical approach but I can appreciate the focus on the technicalities.

That description may be the case. But when travelling light I use an E1DA 9038S and what's said above probably describes that too, so it's what I'm used to and I guess like. Perhaps tho, as an aspect touted to be an advantage of "current drive" amplification is its superiority in speed and tracking of the input signal without any feedback from the load affecting it. Maybe that's behind it?

Two things I'll add.
1. I'm very surprised the output power of the M15i is a nominal 4 dozen mw into 32 ohm. I thought is was way more powerful than that.
2. I would without question normally splurge for the M18i. For those hard button controls alone. But the only power rating I've found is 4.4mm: 28mW @ 300 ohms. It 'should' double linearly with each halving of the impedance, to at least 32 ohms but hopefully close to another double down to 16 ohms too (not all dongle dac-amps will). But, why isn't even 32 ohms published? That making me skeptical that it does. And as I need to drive an IEM down to I think it's 12 ohms, I really don't have confidence this is suitable for that use case.


iBasso Nunchaku - The tube mode is maybe a touch warmer compared to the AB mode, with some extra weight in the mids. The bass extension is very nice and the separation is quite on point. Good stuff 🤙

Ya, well said. And for me, don't need, but really want.

I still have no idea how they get the rated output power without needing a Y-cable and 5v USB power supply like the E1DA PowerDAC requires. Nor exceed the power draw limit from the phone and fail to powered-on.

Actually, I just figuratively smacked myself in the head. It powered on fine connected to my Samsung S23 Ultra. But when plugged into my friend's older iPhone, sound out from the iem plugged in was just static/hiss. Folks at Bloom were trying different cables. Just realized however I bet if I pulled out the tiny battery pack and Y cable I brought for just such an occasion and wired it all up, I bet it would have worked for him. That said, why bother. My friend would never use a supplemental power supply just to use a dongle dac-amp.


UM Stardust - The new entry-level set from UM and it’s great. Warm leaning with hefty vocals and well-extended but slightly subdued treble response. I enjoy it. The bass is on the blunted side if I’m completely honest but the upper mids and lower treble are slightly forward in a really wonderful way. These are another sick-looking IEM... I like this design language UM is going for!

Dang! Definitely wanted to try it. But forgot about it and missed it. Great description. I think it may not be for me based on that.


Flipears Legion - WOAH. This is the craziest implementation of a BCD I’ve ever experienced and it’s not even close LOL they sound like a big, bold V-shaped tuning with crazy powerful slam in the mid-bass and slightly too-forward vocals but holy bananas is that BCD nuts!!! These are fun as hell. The aesthetics are still polarizing to me, I'm not the biggest fan but I also don't hate it. I can most certainly appreciate the craftsmanship though. Especially for a set under $1000!

You put into words what I could not. Not exaggerating one bit when I say I got major chills with hairs raised all over the upper torso and arms when I auditioned. If they had them boxed and sitting there at the table I would have handed over my credit card. Regarding the aesthetics, I'm okay with it. I don't look at them when used, for one (lol). And the rock'n gothic theme solidly conveys what's going on from my ear canal thru my brain, engaging the head and body to bounce or air drum or guitar. So, I'm all good on that front. :^D


CrinEar Project Meta - very much a Meta-tuned IEM, it lives up to its name. I will admit it is very clean, the upper mids are kept in check and the timbre is very natural. No weird peaks or anything of that nature. Not overly warm either, but still nicely clear with very good resolution. The design and stock cable feel top-notch and premium for sure. The chamfered edges on the shell are such a nice touch and when I mentioned that to Crin, he seemed proud of it so, kudos to him on that small touch.

I've been a fan of the work he does for years and manually eq'ed based on his measurements sometimes. Was surprised and impress with the partnerships he began with manufacturers. Even bought one of each color of the Zero:2 for the paltry asking price of $20 as I felt it was the biggest & best bargain in HiFi to ever be; as well as to simply have spares just incase one of mine or friend's fails. Of course I do use a $200 cable with that $20 IEM lol, but I digress.

Speaking of the Zero:2 in this context, something I never experienced happened when I first put the Meta in my ears using the supplied red tips from the Zero:2. It only took about 3 seconds for the Meta to push itself out of my ear canal reducing then completely killing all bass. Re-insert deeper, same happens in 5 seconds. Try it again ... this ain't working! Lol. Took the tips off my Euclid I settled on, put it on the Meta, and that did the trick.

Gave the Meta a good listen and I was really impressed. See above comments by domq422. Thought that was good enough and I was done at the table. But the Daybreak was sitting there so I swapped over to it. And I do think if I pick a set up it will be that. The below comparison of frequency response measurements does a good job explaining why; I do prefer V-shaped HP/IEMs. Now, please, no one go off on me as to the degree of that difference. I know we're talking a dB or two difference in response. But it's enough to make one a preference to me over the other.

Also odd is I would have swore what I was hearing was that the daybreak had more air, sizzle, and high treble relative to the meta, and the meta had more presence and less of that air, sizzle and high treble relative to the daybreak. But you see from the measurements it's solidly the opposite. That's is a really good illustration that I may not always be attributing the right frequencies or ranges to my feelings and opinion of what I hear. Let alone eq'ing based only on what I hear could very well me missing the mark, badly.

(NOTICE: To all readers I set the graphs to cross at a very unconventional 200Hz, for a few reasons. One of them being to not overlay the graphs on the target thru the bass region. DO NOT misread the graph and think that these IEMs diverge from the target thru the bass. Again, I wanted that to happen so that I could better see the target as a separate curve.)
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I included the Reference but did not listen to it. I figured as it's being targeted for a December release the tuning my change. So I'll listen next CJ 2026.
 
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Feb 25, 2025 at 1:23 PM Post #262 of 430
What’s that blue sparkly symphonium iem?
Ahh, yes, sir. That is one of the proposed designs of Symphonium's flagship, set to be released sometime later on this year.. exciting stuff! It's real opal that's been crushed up and incased in resin. It's actually quite beautiful. As you an tell, it's a partnership with Viking Weave Cables. Very cool.

@m8o Hey, brother! I'll reply to yours in just a little bit! I appreciate you taking so much time to read and share your thoughts with me, I am flattered :beerchug:
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 2:40 PM Post #264 of 430
I was really expecting new focals. sad.

can someone try abyss joal and compare it with other 2k options like atrium or poet?
I tried all three and came home with the Joal. I think it performed at a higher level than expected for the price. Poet and Atrium were fine, but the Joal got my vote.
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 2:50 PM Post #265 of 430
Feb 25, 2025 at 2:55 PM Post #266 of 430
Ahh, yes, sir. That is one of the proposed designs of Symphonium's flagship, set to be released sometime later on this year.. exciting stuff! It's real opal that's been crushed up and incased in resin. It's actually quite beautiful. As you an tell, it's a partnership with Viking Weave Cables. Very cool.

@m8o Hey, brother! I'll reply to yours in just a little bit! I appreciate you taking so much time to read and share your thoughts with me, I am flattered :beerchug:
Thanks bro. Looks so dope
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 3:08 PM Post #267 of 430
I forgot to take notes today, so I'll jot down some quick impressions before I forget. I might also make more than one post because I want to get dinner at some point.

Hifiman Shangri-La Sr and Shangri-La Jr with the Shangri-La Sr electrostatic amplifier and EF1000DAC:

I really don't like this amp!!! For the past 3 years, I've loved my Shangri-La Jr for its smooth, yet elevated and extended treble presentation. The $32,000 Shangri-La Sr amp makes the Jr sound sharp, rough, and piercing! The amp sounds bad to the point that I don't really see the point in comparing Jr vs Sr on it because the Jr isn't the Jr that I know. I listened to the Jr last night on my Z10e and it was smooth and airy with barely a hint of roughness or sharpness in the treble. Here, it was borderline "ugh". The Sr has a bit more lower treble than the Jr, which makes the roughness of the amp even more repulsive. However, the Sr seemed to have a better sense of frontal depth to the soundstage/imaging, like elements were more clearly localized as being in front of me which was nice. Bass also seemed better, but that may be simply due to earpad variation; the Jr's pads were much more worn than the ones I have at home.
I bought the Jr blind as my first summit-fi purchase and it was the luckiest headphone purchase decision I ever made. If I had demoed it in this setup beforehand, I may never have bought it in the first place. I had never understood why people thought the Jr had rough treble, but now I get it if they had demoed it on this amp.

Grell OAE1:
This one is all over the place, but I could see where Grell was trying to go with this design. The tonal balance is really whack, huge bass, odd midrange, and spiky treble. On the majority of studio-produced tracks that I listened to, it sounded very odd. However, Axel Grell said it was really meant to simulate the experience of listening in a real venue, so I tried out "In mir klingt ein Lied" by Chelsea Guo from her album Chopin: In My Voice. I had just heard her perform this piece live at the Terrace Theater in the Kennedy Center on Wednesday, so this is a piece where I know what this piece is "supposed" to sound like in a real venue. And on this track, the OAE1 produced a sense of spaciousness in front of me that was vaguely reminiscent of the sort of experience I heard on Wednesday night. It's not truly out-of-head, but I got a sense of what the headphone could do on the right track.
The biggest question I have on the OAE1 is if it does anything better than any of the CrossZone headphones. I tried out the CZ-10 Enhanced in Tokyo in December and that headphone produced a distinct sense of forward imaging and spaciousness. That's because it does physical crossfeed with drivers that produce the opposite channel's sound in each earcup. The OAE1 is purely stereo. The OAE1 does produce a nice sense of forward localization in bass, but on other frequency ranges and instruments it often fails to produce the proper illusion, so it comes off as disjointed while the CZ-10 more consistently produced a sense of spatial depth in front of me. The OAE1 was interesting to listen to, but the CrossZone seems to do what it wants to do, better.

FiiO FT1:
This is my second demo of it, and I used the FiiO K17 DAC/amp this time instead of my Walkman. I found the FT1 much better this time. It was not as sharp and stabby in the treble as it was at my first demo during CAF. I really see why people like it so much, the midrange is nicely tuned and the tonal balance in broad strokes is good. I think it's a bit too warm and there's a loss of detail in the low bass (the opening of "Sail (Extended Mix)" by GXD has a low-bass synth line between the big bass beats and that line gets lost amidst the beats on the FT1). The headphone is also lightweight and pretty comfy even without the Capra Audio strap. I honestly think of it as an evolution, both in design and sound, of the Hifiman R7DX that launched back in 2021.

FiiO K17:
This is the successor of the K9 Pro DAC/amp (which I used for years) and I think it's a worthy successor. It has an attractive yet simple form factor and the use of knob switches instead of stubby slider switches for selecting gain and output mode is a huge improvement in useability. The touchscreen menu system (with an additional knob for physical control) is also a nice touch and offers tons of DSP features. I can't say much about the sound; I didn't hear it with any headphones that I normally use so I have no way to compare the subtleties of amp/DAC differences. The main thing I disliked was the small and wobbly knobs (both menu and volume knobs). They did not feel good to use. But in every other way, it has basically the same hardware feature set as my TEAC UD-507 amp, plus EQ options, at only $900. If I hadn't already gotten the TEAC, this would be on my radar for an upgrade to the K9 Pro.

Stax SRM-T8000 (with SR-X9000):

I wanted to get another listen of the T8000 and see what Stax think Stax headphones should sound like. I had heard it in Tokyo, but only for 2 minutes and from a cold start. The Hugo 2 was used as the DAC with the green filter enabled.
The T8000 gives percussion notes a "bouncy" texture. There's not as much of the deep-hitting sub-bass components and more of the upper bass and midrange components of a drum hit so that it's more like "Bam!" than "Bom!". The sound is also more sparkly in the treble. Comparing T8000 and BHSE, they aren't all that different, but the BHSE seems to go a bit deeper in percussion notes for that "Bom!" that digs deeper with a bit more body and weight and the treble is a bit more focused and less splashy on things like cymbals.
I want to listen more tomorrow because during my demo session, the guy next to me was playing music extremely loudly. It was often hard to hear my music over his and it was quite frankly irritating to me that this guy was blasting his songs without a care for others around him. This guy, yeesh.

Meze Poet:
It's kind of like an open-back Liric 2. Nice bass quantity, inoffensive midrange, but a few treble spikes, though those can contribute to the crisp attack on percussion notes. I listened on the Topping DX9 at the Headphones.com booth and I'll want to listen to it again tomorrow.

DCA Noire X:
I thought this was a very good DCA headphone, and possibly better than the E3, which was my previous holder of "best DCA headphone". The percussive impact or punch/slam was decent, though it had that same sort of "bouncy" drum texture that I heard on the T8000 + X9000 and on the Aeon 2 Noire without any filters, though much less offensive in the treble than the original Noire. I just wasn't a fan of the upper midrange, it sounds slightly raspy or dry and I don't like that sort of sound even if I could see it being more neutral. Treble was more controlled than the Poet (which I A/Bed against). It's interesting because Meze licensed the AMTS from DCA for use in the Poet, but DCA still does it better with a smoother treble tuning on the Noire X.
I also listened to the Stealth for a bit to compare vs the Noire X. After a few seconds, I was like "nope". There's a distinct lack of percussive impact on the Stealth, though no lack of bass quantity, which makes music uniformly unenjoyable for me.

Audio Technica ADX3000:
Worse than the ADX5000 in my opinion. Vocals are harsh and coarse, as if the singers were all hoarse. Bass was lacking, while the treble was packing. Bright, harsh, and thin throughout.

ADX5000:
I had long thought that if I were to "retire" from this hobby and go down to a single headphone, it would be the Susvara. Now, the ADX5000 makes a pretty good run for the money. I've always had a soft spot for the Audio Technica tuning, and while the ADX5K isn't really the traditional AT tuning, it's basically what I always wished the HD800S was. It is crisp, snappy, and airy rather than limp and tinny.

I listened to more, but I think I'll head out to dinner now, so there will be part 2 later.
Thanks for the insights man, i am excited to read about the K17(was looking forward to it).


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@domq422 bro I just read your impressions post. Man Valhalla is looking delicious, and I agree with your take on the Origin as well. IDK Valhalla is currently making my heart beat faster by the minute(with every post I read on it lol).
 
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Feb 25, 2025 at 3:58 PM Post #268 of 430
Did you listen to the D16? What did you think of that or any of the DAPs?
Unfortunately, I did not - ya know, for whatever reason, I saw the DAPs, picked them up, felt how heavy they were and realized that I would never buy a DAP (for the time being that is, feelings change), so I wasn’t interested in using them. But let me tell you, the god damned build quality is unlike anything I have ever felt in my life with ANY product.

The weight and density of the thing… it was holding a solid piece of metal. Unreal stuff. The D16 seemed really cool, but I didn’t feel interested in hearing it, instead I focused on the truly portable sources. But maybe I should have just taken them all for a spin… all in hindsight

@gadgetgod There is genuinely no comparison between the Valhalla and anything else I heard in on Sunday. It truly came across as a special IEM.
 
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Feb 25, 2025 at 4:18 PM Post #269 of 430
@gadgetgod There is genuinely no comparison between the Valhalla and anything else I heard in on Sunday. It truly came across as a special IEM.
Man i am already starting my saving for it lol.
 
Feb 25, 2025 at 4:22 PM Post #270 of 430

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