CanJam New York 2025 Impressions Thread (February 22-23, 2025)

Feb 24, 2025 at 2:54 PM Post #211 of 436
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Another awesome CanJam experience! I come to it mainly as an over-ear headphone user with desktop components and here are some quick impressions from the past two days:

First, kudos to Focal for their display area :thumbsup:. I liked the arrangement of the stand-up stations to get a quick listen. Only problem was WiFi or Bluetooth was intermittent so the music would stop at times. It was good to have a DAP player with adapters to get a better impression. The flagship Utopia was nice and feels very substantial in weight compared to the other models. Of course, the Utopia is tops in quality but my personal pick was the Hadenys as it is a lighter weight open-back than Utopia and at a lower price point sounded like a good match on my DAP (FiiO M11 w/AK4493’s).
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The ZMF room is always a favorite and I told Bevin it is hard to resist the “tables of temptation” and not buy one on the spot :sweat_smile:. There was a beautiful black and white Ebony Bokeh Closed that caught my eye. I was surprised it was still there on Sunday. I already have a nice BC in natural Limba otherwise I would have snagged that one.

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I did get some time with the Bokeh Open and enjoyed it. For me it has a brighter presentation as compared to the closed version and I’d recommend it as a nice introduction to the ZMF lineup. I’ll probably get one down the road to round out my collection after I see what ZMF has in the future for custom shop options. I told Zach and Bevin I'm looking forward to visiting their new facility later this year if I get a chance.

Next stop was with the always cordial guys at Linear Tube Audio and they had a Meze POET on hand which is getting a lot of attention. POET post cards were everywhere around the showroom 😳. I signed up for LTA’s Aero DAC giveaway and even if I don’t win, I’m going to get this DAC in the future. I purchased their Velo amp last year and it has been a joy to use with my headphones and speakers as a preamp. The POET is lovely in design and carries on the Meze quality. I enjoyed the sound presentation and it has that smooth Meze sound I liked with the Elite when I demo'ed it in earlier CanJams. Not quite as expansive in sound as the Elite in my impression and a bit smaller in size too. My ears felt a little more compressed in the pads. Still very comfortable in weight. I currently don’t own a Meze and this is one I’d probably go for if they offer maybe some different color variations later.
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Then over to Audio-Technica to try the new ATH-R70xa which is on my RADAR. I’m liking it and I signed up for the giveaway. It is so wonderfully light you can barely feel them. I don’t own an Audio-Technica yet and this will likely be the one. It sounded fine on my DAP even with its high impedance so I know it’ll do well on my OTL amp that matches nicely with high-Ohm HPs.

For some fun my son and I had to try Pud’s (pud.com) awesome creations he had over at the Headphones.com tables. I liked the cubic “BOB” with multiple drivers and told Pud I was impressed with the sound. He says it does get a lot of good reactions from audiophiles. Probably not for the claustrophobic however.
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If I heard correctly Fosi Audio made their first NYC CanJam appearance and I enjoyed listening to the planar model headphone they brought. The headband reminded me of my LCD-2’s and overall I liked the design, comfort and sound. Is it still in development? I don’t see much about it on the Interweb and I forgot to ask what was the model’s name? The Fosi folks were very polite and I appreciate the gift satchel bag.
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HiFi For All’s Dahlia is one I’ve been watching and it was exciting to finally get some hands-on time with it. Fantastic work Nick is doing with this headphone and I like the innovations he developed with the switchable rings compatible with ZMF pads and changeable resonator inserts. For someone going from budget level to higher quality I think Dahlia is a great step forward that allows nice sound customizations.

FiiO had an extensive showing at their table with several new items. I purchased their FT1 (dynamic) closed-back a few months ago. For the $150 budget price at the time its a great deal and includes a respectable case and two decent cables. I was interested in the new FT7 planar model that was recently released. Did a quick comparison of it with the FT1-Pro (planar). Both did very well on my DAP however in show conditions in the crowded main room it was difficult to hear a difference. The FT7 is a nicer design and feels better in build quality.
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Stopped by the Audma table to check out their attractive Maestro amplifier. He had a Susvara and Spirit Torino (Pulsar?) on hand. I heard the Susvara before so I opted for the Torino. The Torino design is not my cup of tea and while it sounded fine, I did not hear anything that really jumped out at me. The Maestro is a gorgeous amp and the Electronic Loudspeaker Imaging Simulating Amplifier (ELISA) technology it brings to the table to simulate the external speaker imaging/cross-feed is fascinating. It would be worth trying it in better listening conditions.

Revisited the Austrian Audio Composer that I enjoyed at CanJam last year. I liked the design and performance of the amplifier that accompanied it too. The Composer is an interesting HP and to me seems well engineered, great sounding and a durable build. They come from the history and heritage of the original AKG company and that quality is apparent.

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I went over to HEDD and tried out one. Very well-built IMO with an interesting headband system that distributes the weight nicely. I enjoyed the resolving sound with the Air Motion Transformers however it is a bulky design with an appearance that does not appeal to me. I brought my own Dan Clark Audio (DCA) Aeon-2 Noires and compared them with the new Noire X’s. I did notice a fuller expanded presentation with the Noire-X and can hear definite improvements with the Acoustic Metamaterial Tuning System (AMTS) which I heard is also licensed to Meze for the POET. Wrapping up, the show-stopper for me was the Abyss JOAL that I mentioned earlier here in the thread. I think Abyss may have nailed it as an all-rounder.
I have the AERO. Superb. Quiet, dynamic, open and on and on. Top tier DAC for sure!
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 3:36 PM Post #212 of 436
I talked with a Chord distributor about UWB (Ultrawide Band) Technologies and how it might provide almost seamless wireless connectivity. I really hope Chord would consider implementing UWB in their portable DACs. It might be a game-changer for wireless DACs. The only real downside to UWB is its accuracy. It's up to 5 meters. The range on the other hand is up to 200 meters.
What does accuracy mean in this context? Thanks @Niyologist!
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 3:39 PM Post #213 of 436
Feb 24, 2025 at 3:41 PM Post #214 of 436
What does accuracy mean in this context? Thanks @Niyologist!
UWB's original functionality is used for finding lost items, like keys or a lost phone. The best accuracy for these items is five meters away from the phone itself. However, it's possible to combine the accuracy and range for a nearly unbreakable connection.
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 6:21 PM Post #216 of 436
As I was mentioning to the Bloom crew, there are just a lot of high quality IEM out there these days. It's an embarrassment of riches. It's just about finding your little niche in it. I heard a lot of really good stuff. I finally listened to an exorbitantly priced IEM that I also thought sounded top top notch. And that was the Macbeth! The faceplate is a total downside, but the sound hype is legit. Impressive all rounder that is just engaging.

But considering the stuff I hear for a couple grand less, I still think it is overpriced. But it was actually a very very excellent IEM.
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 6:21 PM Post #217 of 436
Wow! Really nice hearing that Flipears is gaining interest there. Had a listen to those here in PH late last year and knew these are going to make some noise. The Legion is special as well as the other new releases like the Aisha Electrii. Kudos to you @MakeItWain and the other Head-Fiers for listening and spreading word-of-mouth there at CJ NYC. Flipears do deserve the attention with their recent products.

Just a closer look and hope NYC Head-Fiers take the time to listen to these -

If it wasn't for all the love this FlipEars Legion was getting in the thread my friend and I probably wouldn't have auditioned them. And both my friend and I agreed we were going to make ourselves deaf from the degree we were rocking out to them. Also reminded me that I held the opinion in the past a headphone or iem doesn't need to hug or even come close to the Harman target to be awesome, and that I should believe that once again: [ https://audioamigo.squig.link/?share=Crinacle_Target,Harman_Target,Flipears_Legion ]

What I'll need to do however is not base my opinion and purchasing decision from listening to them at the end of two days of auditioning headphones and IEMs way too loud, and audition them in something like an Audio46 (sure hope they become a dealer of them) after resting my ears before I do so. To ensure I like them as much at low level as I did loud.

edit: The FlipEars table had some fairly large boxes relative to the size of IEMs they were selling there are the show. The hour was late and I didn't have time to check what they were and audition them. Just curious here... Wondering what they were and what deal they were offering? FlipEars wasn't listed in the Show Specials post.
 
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Feb 24, 2025 at 7:02 PM Post #218 of 436
Going to keep my overall impressions pretty short here as well, as this was largely a CanJam of warm tuned iems, sources, cables etc that, as most people who know my tastes know it's the polar opposite.

There were 3 stand outs for me, both which I think are incredibly well done and will be class leaders at their price points for those who are in the market for that tuning so I'll cover those below.

The Forte Ears prototype from @Riccardoyeh , currently code named Faust, which is a warm tuned IEM compared to Macbeth's more vocal specialist tuning. I spent the most time during CanJam listening to these and speaking with Riccardo as well as @Eric Chong and Eletech team regarding the tuning direction and ideas behind it and the specialty cable being designed for it. The Faust has a boosted sub and mid bass sound, being relatively balanced between the two but lacking any bloom/bleed into the lower mids and from my listening, no dipped lower mids to further accentuate the bass at the expense of male vocals. Male vocals still sounded clear, deep and neutrally placed despite the increased bass. Upper mids and the transitions throughout are all very well done without any incoherency leading to great male and female vocals and still performing well (albeit not to MacBeth levels) with piano and other "classical" music-esque genres or sounds. The treble will be to most western audiophiles preference with great speed and detail but without shrillness or peaks. It does however sit south of where I would like it and depending on the track can be a little obscured by the bass quantity.

While at the Eletech table I was able to try their new collaboration IEM with Canpur with an expected name of Monalisa. I don't have any details on expected price point or driver config, but this IEM to me was an improved 622b in almost all aspects. It has a very similar bass response as the 622b, being punch and fast with only moderate boosted quantity without being warm sounding. The mids are probably my one complaint, similar to the original 622b impressions, they can lean a little dry depending on the source, so I'd recommend a tube dap or amp to bring some emotive sound to the vocals, both male and female (male suffering from this slightly more than female). The treble is well textured and extended, sounds like ESTs just like 622b's but with better presence and extension, I found 622b to be pretty rolled off sounding in the upper registers where I didn't feel this suffered from that at all. Overall a very solid set that I'm looking forward to see the future of.

Last but not least, the new Mest Jet Black from @UniqueMelody which I listened to at the @MusicTeck table. I listened to the version with the UM Dreamy cable from PWA. I found the new Jet Black to be a giant step forward from the Mest 3 while being slightly less to my taste than the Indigo but probably greater general appeal as it is slightly less bright than the Indigo with (to my ear) a slightly boosted upper mid range in comparison but not overly so as to become forward/sibilant. The Jet Black has a great bass texture, imaging and rumble to it, having more sub bass than mid bass while also having more decay than the indigo (possibly due to the addition of the BCDs for the bass/tuning direction differences). Vocals are clear, neutrally placed and airy with good detail and resolution and absolutely 0 bass bleed/interference. As mentioned, the treble is slightly less bright than the Indigo but more than the Mest 3, so it doesn't keep the darker sound that was present there. Similar imaging/detail is preserved but I do feel the Indigo has overall better extension and speed at least for my own preferences.

As usual I'm guilty of taking 0 pictures because I get far too caught up in the moment/my thoughts to remember to take any pictures :laughing:. Hope you enjoyed reading and it was great seeing all of those I spoke to yet another year and look forward to seeing any who will be attending So-Cal as well!

Also, big thanks to @warrenpchi @jude and the rest of the head-fi team as this wouldn't be possible without your hard work!
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 7:17 PM Post #219 of 436
Another fantastic show, by far the most well attended I've been to, but that was true on the exhibitor side as well, so it never felt like you had to wait too long to hear something.

I listen to primarily rap, trance, and female pop vocalists (like T Swizzle)

Daily Driver IEMs: Aroma Fei Wan, Empire Ears Raven, Samsung Buds 2 Pro

Headphones (Listen less frequently): Audeze CRBN, ZMF Verite Closed

DAP: Shanling M9 (used for all IEMs at the show)

Sensitive to emphasized upper mids and treble spikes

IEMs:

Forte Ears Macbeth
Pleasant, inoffensive, Good treble extension. No upper mid issues. Bass was fine, not anemic not significantly boosted. Mids were clear. Overall i thought it was good and appropriate for the price comparitively. Not really fun or engaging for my genres.

Alpha and Omega Fulgrim
Vibrating tactile subbass, lots of midbass, fast, thick (bass), clear vocals but not pushed forward, pretty detailed. Totl bass specialist, fun

Alpha and Omega Omega (setting 1, didn't find out what the different settings change)
Lots of bass and subbass, No upper mid issues, vocals a bit forward and clear, thick (owing to the bass), no harshness in the treble, kinda smoothed out. Bordering on bass specialist but everything else sounds right. Overall relaxed sound despite the bass, felt like something was smoothing any distortion

Epic Audio Encephalorrhagia

Thicc, mids very clear but textured/weighty, bass decent, subbass Ok. Mids emphasized but not shouty, clear and pleasant.No upper mid issues. Good treble extension. Would be a solid option at ~$5k....8 is a bit much

Epic Audio Schizophrenia (switch 2 down, again not sure what the settings mean)

Good, vocals forward, bass Ok not particularly impactful, subbass Ok, thinner relative to the Encephalorrhagia but not thin by any other metric

Brise Fugaku
Impression in my earlier post, but basically I went from meh to "this is special" within a few minutes. Didn't quite rise to the level of sell a kidney good or lightly used Honda civic good for me, only because an Abyss 1266 can be had for much less (albeit not portable)

NGaudio Meteora
Good, bass north of neutral, upper mids and treble not fatiguing, a bit thick, sounds good, but I like what I have better, no crazy imaging, vocals fine. Sub bass Ok, not great

Rhapsodio Supreme Legends
Spicy (unpleasantly so) treble, Piercing upper mids. Traces of sibilance. I'm clearly not the target market for this. Not sure if it was source related, but I feel like the M9 is a pretty warm source.

Canpur CP622b
*listened right after fugaku*
It's fine, recessed vocals, boring, subbass Ok, bass just Ok,

AME Mousa
Nice bass, thick but clean/clear sound without distortion anywhere. No upper mid issues. Nice airy well extended treble. Good detail retrieval. Very nice.

Elysian Apostle
Really good impactful DD bass, subbass really good, mids/vocals forward and musical/pleasantly distorted (I loved the mids, but if you're looking for a more natural/sterile experience this isn't it), upper mids tolerable, no hint of sibilance, treble air nice. Fast and detailed. Overall fun energetic signature with plenty of bass (more than Fei Wan and Raven). Hits way above it's price point IMO. Might buy.

On Sunday I A/B'd with my Fei Wan:

More subbass on Apostle

In bassy songs mids are slightly less prominent on Apostle owing to bass prominence (slightly), in mid centric songs they're perfectly placed. Apostle perhaps slightly more intimate stage compared to Fei Wan. Vocals a bit clearer on fei wan.
Fei wan edges Apostle in certain places if you had to pick one, but not 2-3x better. Apostle arguably a bit funner with the subbass while Fei Wan is a bit more analytical in this comparison, but I feel both are in that fun bass with details realm.

Elysian Anihilator
It's fine. Not a huge fan personally.

Quill Satin
It's good, didn't stand out really. Bass not that impactful despite dd, mids are fine, treble fine, no upper mid issues. No sibilance. Has some sub bass.

Hercules Audio Moses
Good impactful DD bass, good subbass, better than good but not quite as emphasized as fulgrim (had listened recently), treble not quite as sparkly as others, perhaps a bit rolled off. Upper mids not harsh. Forward mids, which I like. Really good, bassy reference. Wide stage, thick (bass), detailed. Bass makes it fun

Subtonic Storm
Thick sounding but not bass emphasized. Upper mids not harsh. Very detailed, great staging/imaging. Takes a lot of juice. Bass is fine, but a bit light for my tastes. Treble solid. Overall great, but just a totl iem, perhaps a bit special in the imaging. I expected a bit more with the hype from years past, but it's good.

Nightjar Duality
Balanced mode: Really good bass impact and subbass, thicc, treble pretty good actually, well extended, mids good not recessed. No upper mid issues. Not quite as detailed as more expensive options.

Bass boost mode:
Lots of rumbling subbass, lots of bass, mids take a back seat. Specialist. Sounds nice with rap, but otherwise the bass is a bit too much and fatiguing (something I'd never imagined saying)

Symphonium Giant
Upper mids not harsh, detailed, good bass (even after Duality, so its boosted), mids Ok, a bit forward which is good against the bass, good bassy all rounder especially considering the price.

Duality round 2, compared to Apostle and Omega

Balanced mode:
More subass than both, slightly less midbass, vocals slightly less forward. Warmer than apostle, less energetic.

Bass mode:
Insane bass/subbass, almost too much....nice with rap

Like Apostle better, but apostle doesn't have the party trick

AK/Empire Ears Novus
Nice EE bass, clear, good mids, fun. Like Odin but more refined, clearer with less fatiguing upper mids. Raven stage is better. Novus a bit more bass relative to Raven. Really good, but Raven satisfies my EE fix for the time being.

CFA Clara
Clear mids, Good DD bass impact, good subbass, easy to drive, fast/ good instrument separation, Upper mids fine but probably right at my limit. Low mids, male voices really nice clear and forward, can hear rap ad libs very well. Energetic. Slight slight traces of starts of sibilance. Really nice but would be fatiguing in the long run given my sensitivities

CFA Astrolith
Vocals a bit more intimate relative to Clara
Good bass impact, decent subbass, fast, detailed, upper mids at the edge of comfort level, male vocals better on Clara, upper mids/treble would probably be fatiguing over time (like Clara)

64 Audio Solo
Listened to these for like 10 minutes this morning at Audio 46, pretty good

Good bass and subbass, dd probably, vocals well placed, upper mids not harsh, solid set. Won't be fatiguing, but not warm, well balanced and good but not exceptional in any particular area, good all rounder, well priced


Wireless:
Until recently, my wireless setup consisted of my Legend X CIEM on iFi Go Pods, but it's a bit clunky. The Samsung Buds 2 Pro finally reached the level of tolerable not tin sounding trash tws earbuds for me so those have been my walking/gym option

Noble Fokus Rex5
Really good for tws and in general for this price point, warm and cozy sound, intimate stage, good dd bass, detailed enough. No upper mid issues. Wanted to buy on the spot but Noble and Bloom had no spare units at the show (backordered online). Thankfully, the nice people at Audio 46 had a few units when I stopped by just before going to the airport.

Focal Bathys
Nice, especially for Wireless, good placement of the vocals, good bass impact, good subbass. No upper mid issues. Nice all around, don't feel like much of a compromise

Audeze Maxwell
Vocals a bit recessed, less bass impact, subass there but a bit less than I'd like, upper mids fine. Overall feels like a bit of a compromise.

Headphones:

I've been more IEM focused for the past decade so my headphone impressions are probably limited and more relative to what I have


Warwick Acoustics Aperio and GSE
Estat, good clarity but thick (relative to most estats) like crbn but even more so, GSE particularly (but both do) have solid bass impact, vocals amazing. Amazing....but 1266 and CRBN are much, much, cheaper

Audeze CRBN2
Same CRBN signature in the mids, bass/subbass a bit more impactful, perhaps a bit more warm and thick feeling due to the bass. Still amazing. Wasn't planning to upgrade, but the Audeze rep mentioned that there's a $995 trade in/upgrade program for current CRBN owners, so I'm definitely jumping on that

Abyss 1266
Just amazing, hard to describe. Thicc engaging sound, wide stage, Incredibly clear and detailed, fast, forces you to actively listen, upper mids not fatiguing. Amazing. Going to probably buy later this year to end my years of fanboying

Abyss Joal (listened initially off M9)
Upper mids fine. Easy listen, nice clear vocals, a bit forward which i like, good bass impact not overwhelming, a bit of subbass, nice tonality slight warmth when needed. Nice stage, kind of weird, felt intimate when song calls for it, but expansive when needed.
Sounds even better appropriately amped, subbass comes in very nicely. Nice supple thin cable

Wanted to try the Hifiman Isvarna and Unveiled HE1000/Susvara but didn't get around to them.
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 7:41 PM Post #220 of 436
Going to keep my overall impressions pretty short here as well, as this was largely a CanJam of warm tuned iems, sources, cables etc that, as most people who know my tastes know it's the polar opposite.

There were 3 stand outs for me, both which I think are incredibly well done and will be class leaders at their price points for those who are in the market for that tuning so I'll cover those below.

The Forte Ears prototype from @Riccardoyeh , currently code named Faust, which is a warm tuned IEM compared to Macbeth's more vocal specialist tuning. I spent the most time during CanJam listening to these and speaking with Riccardo as well as @Eric Chong and Eletech team regarding the tuning direction and ideas behind it and the specialty cable being designed for it. The Faust has a boosted sub and mid bass sound, being relatively balanced between the two but lacking any bloom/bleed into the lower mids and from my listening, no dipped lower mids to further accentuate the bass at the expense of male vocals. Male vocals still sounded clear, deep and neutrally placed despite the increased bass. Upper mids and the transitions throughout are all very well done without any incoherency leading to great male and female vocals and still performing well (albeit not to MacBeth levels) with piano and other "classical" music-esque genres or sounds. The treble will be to most western audiophiles preference with great speed and detail but without shrillness or peaks. It does however sit south of where I would like it and depending on the track can be a little obscured by the bass quantity.

While at the Eletech table I was able to try their new collaboration IEM with Canpur with an expected name of Monalisa. I don't have any details on expected price point or driver config, but this IEM to me was an improved 622b in almost all aspects. It has a very similar bass response as the 622b, being punch and fast with only moderate boosted quantity without being warm sounding. The mids are probably my one complaint, similar to the original 622b impressions, they can lean a little dry depending on the source, so I'd recommend a tube dap or amp to bring some emotive sound to the vocals, both male and female (male suffering from this slightly more than female). The treble is well textured and extended, sounds like ESTs just like 622b's but with better presence and extension, I found 622b to be pretty rolled off sounding in the upper registers where I didn't feel this suffered from that at all. Overall a very solid set that I'm looking forward to see the future of.

Last but not least, the new Mest Jet Black from @UniqueMelody which I listened to at the @MusicTeck table. I listened to the version with the UM Dreamy cable from PWA. I found the new Jet Black to be a giant step forward from the Mest 3 while being slightly less to my taste than the Indigo but probably greater general appeal as it is slightly less bright than the Indigo with (to my ear) a slightly boosted upper mid range in comparison but not overly so as to become forward/sibilant. The Jet Black has a great bass texture, imaging and rumble to it, having more sub bass than mid bass while also having more decay than the indigo (possibly due to the addition of the BCDs for the bass/tuning direction differences). Vocals are clear, neutrally placed and airy with good detail and resolution and absolutely 0 bass bleed/interference. As mentioned, the treble is slightly less bright than the Indigo but more than the Mest 3, so it doesn't keep the darker sound that was present there. Similar imaging/detail is preserved but I do feel the Indigo has overall better extension and speed at least for my own preferences.

As usual I'm guilty of taking 0 pictures because I get far too caught up in the moment/my thoughts to remember to take any pictures :laughing:. Hope you enjoyed reading and it was great seeing all of those I spoke to yet another year and look forward to seeing any who will be attending So-Cal as well!

Also, big thanks to @warrenpchi @jude and the rest of the head-fi team as this wouldn't be possible without your hard work!
I realized I forgot one IEM because I only got the chance to finally listen to it late in the day on Sunday, that is the Quill Satin. This is an iem that has undergone a lot of tunung iterations and the current version is a warm leaning tuning with a massive sound stage and sparkling treble that sits just south of neutral in terms of brightness for me. The treble is handled by a unique planar that is drastically different sounding from those used in other current planar treble iems on the market with a more natural timbre and better decay. The mids on this latest tuning are closer to the original proto from So Cal and my second favorite in terms of vocal tuning. It's a very technical iem that I'd love to see a slightly less bassy version that would balance the treble better for my tastes but the current iteration is a tuning that will be extremely popular with western audiophiles.
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 7:48 PM Post #221 of 436
For those who have heard the Omega and the Fulgrim prototype, what separates the two… and by how much considering the price difference?
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 7:53 PM Post #222 of 436
For those who have heard the Omega and the Fulgrim prototype, what separates the two… and by how much considering the price difference?

The Fulgrim sounded a little richer in the bass and less energetic in the upper mids than the Omega. I really liked both but I feel Fulgrim is definitely a clear step up in overall resolution and details, with that said the MSRP of the Omega makes much more sense to me than the MSRP of the Fulgrim even though the Fulgrim is currently discounted for a pre-order price.
 
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Feb 24, 2025 at 7:58 PM Post #223 of 436
The Fulgrim sounded a little richer in the bass and less energetic in the upper mids than the Omega. I really liked both but I feel Fulgrim is definitely a clear step up in overall resolution and details, with that said the MSRP of the Omega makes much more sense to me than the MSRP of the Fulgrim even though the Fulgrim is currently discounted for a pre-order price.
Got it. Thanks.

For the pre-order discount price of Fulgrim, I could go crazy and grab an N6iii, Mest Jet Black, and Omega…
 
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Feb 24, 2025 at 8:02 PM Post #224 of 436
Got it. Thanks.

If you like the Omega then the Fulgrim just won't disappoint that's for sure. It's basically a "TOTL bass set"... However, I am definitely puzzled about where the $7k asking price is coming from. That is priced higher than the STORM MSRP and while they are tuned for different purposes I find some of the intangible qualities of the Fulgrim to be a tier or two below what the STORM offers.

Obviously show floor impressions should be taken with a grain of salt... but something along the lines of like $4.5k ish, which is still far from cheap, would make more sense to me. I am hoping I can spend more time with it as it did leave a good impression on me overall.
 
Feb 24, 2025 at 8:04 PM Post #225 of 436
If you like the Omega then the Fulgrim just won't disappoint that's for sure. It's basically a "TOTL bass set"... However, I am definitely puzzled about where the $7k asking price is coming from. That is priced higher than the STORM MSRP and while they are tuned for different purposes I find some of the intangible qualities of the Fulgrim to be a tier or two below what the STORM offers.

Obviously show floor impressions should be taken with a grain of salt... but something along the lines of like $4.5k ish, which is still far from cheap, would make more sense to me. I am hoping I can spend more time with it as it did leave a good impression on me overall.
4.5ish would be much easier to jump on.
 

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