[omg]

just curious.. does FLAC vs v0 LAME really make a difference when running an ipod with "lower" end headphones (sr60/80/etc)? no amp/dock connector.. nothing fancy, just an ipod and some headphones

well?

 

[goldenratiophi]

Nope.

 

[Duggeh]

Even if it did (I havent tried such a comparison). It certainly wouldn't be worth the massive battery life hit that lossless causes for me. (i use between 128 and 192 on the iTunes encoder mostly).

I do hear a difference between 128k itunes and ALAC. Thats with a set of fake px100 out of an iPod photo. But that difference isnt worth the loss in battery life either.

jm2c

 

[NiceCans]

When actually put to the test most people cannot tell flac from v0 regardles of system,
or should I say . . . . most cannot tell the difference AND prove it repeatedly in an ABX test. I am one of them.
Of course most Head-Fi members are the exception

 

[Febs]

There was a poll here a while back asking this very question. I'll see if I can find it. If I remember correctly, out of about 100 respondents, only 25% claimed that they could actually tell the difference. However, only 2 of those respondents supported their response with ABX test results, which the rules of the poll required.

I can't tell the difference. LAME is generally transparent for me up to -V5.

Here it is: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/ca...ssless-223612/

 

[weste47]

Yo this same topic has been posted many times, use the search button yo.

 

[omg]

Quote:

Originally Posted by weste47 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yo this same topic has been posted many times, use the search button yo.

i usually do.. i was kinda lazy this time

 

[omg]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Febs /img/forum/go_quote.gif There was a poll here a while back asking this very question. I'll see if I can find it. If I remember correctly, out of about 100 respondents, only 25% claimed that they could actually tell the difference. However, only 2 of those respondents supported their response with ABX test results, which the rules of the poll required. I can't tell the difference. LAME is generally transparent for me up to -V5. Here it is: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f46/ca...ssless-223612/

shieeeeeet, thanks for the link

 

[PachmanP]

Although I have not given it a careful listen, I have not noticed a difference between flac and V1 on my portable out of my e4c's.

And truely the question of import is not whether I can tell the difference, but rather whether you can tell the difference (but I'm sure you already knew that and really just wanted some opinions).

 

[omg]

Quote:

Originally Posted by PachmanP /img/forum/go_quote.gif Although I have not given it a careful listen, I have not noticed a difference between flac and V1 on my portable out of my e4c's. And truely the question of import is not whether I can tell the difference, but rather whether you can tell the difference (but I'm sure you already knew that and really just wanted some opinions).

yea i read about all these peoples putting FLAC on their ipod and stuff.. i tried it out and couldnt tell the difference so i'm wondering why people even bother

 

[Night Surfer]

v0? LOL, no.

 

[monolith]

Only with a couple of recordings/albums, but with those, definitively yes.

 

[DavidMahler]

The ipod's DAC chip is not really substantial enough to reveal differences between a well encoded mp3 and lossless. You may hear differences using a really great DAC, but certainly not on an ipod and not with low end headphones. I think even a top quality headphone plugged into an amp using an ipod as the source wont benefit from lossless. For my ipod i encode my music at 160 vb and I've very happy with the sound. For my music server I encode Lossless and I use a Bel Canto DAC 3 as the source.

Dave

 

[appophylite]

LAME is quite fine for me. I have difficulty telling the difference when I get above 256 kbps mp3s so I have no reason and no desire to go lossless.

 

[krmathis]

Probably not.
But I have not run any ABX test, so can never be sure.