Burson Playmate 2 (3W, ESS9038 DAC, Pre amp, DSD512, USB-C, toslink)
Nov 16, 2020 at 1:42 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 81

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Burson Audio has released a new Playmate model. It has feedback based 2 level gain for eg. IEMs and planner magnetics. The stand will be useful in some cases, especially at the desktops.

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Specs:

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Ship from the 10th of December.

MSRP: 544USD + shipping

Pre-Order Offer: 435USD + shipping*


Pre-Order ends on the 10th of December.

*Cool-stand availability TBA.



More info at: https://www.bursonaudio.com/products/playmate-2/
 
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Nov 16, 2020 at 8:50 AM Post #3 of 81

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The Specs tells me that this AMP got more power than Conductor C3 Ref?

C3 Ref has about 2.5x more power.

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I would say that Playmate 2 has 'enough' power for most headphones.
 
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Nov 16, 2020 at 10:59 AM Post #4 of 81

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Cool, i have Playmate 1 and it's been amazing.

Since this thing is still rocking, I won't be upgrading, and until we have some good European support, it's a mess in terms of technical support bringing stuff from Australia, customs and stuff ...

So, super happy with Playmate 1 ...

... but I don't think I'll choose something similar on my next upgrade, whenever this happens.

Really great to see this v2 though! :)
 
Nov 19, 2020 at 8:12 AM Post #6 of 81

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But I see on the PLAYMATE spec the power is higher than C3 REF I don't know what you mean by 2.5x more?
Sorry, I don't understand what power do you mean? My point was that C3 REF has more powerful headphone amplifier.

ps. Burson has released Cool Stand as a separate product: https://www.bursonaudio.com/product/cool-stand/

They seem to have 20% Off Pre-Chrismas Sale in case someone is interested. I've tested and the code '20OFF' seens to apply to Cool Stand as well.
 
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I've been looking for an to upgrade to my XDuoo 05 DAC/Amp with burson v5i op amp, and I don't know if this would be the right move. I mean, if I pick up the Burson Playmate 2 with the discount, including 4 burson v6 vivid, which would cost $531. I does look like a pretty good deal and after watching/reading review, evidently it'll sound way better than what I have. But, for that amount of money, could I get something a lot better with even the op amps included?

I'm not usually buying much headfi equipment, my headphones are the shure 1840, including my current XDuoo DAC/Amp. I was also watching the Ifi micro iDSD DAC/Amp. but I have no idea which one would sound better. Or if there's any other one which could be around that price and sound a lot better.

Any suggestions would be really appreciated. :)
 
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I've been looking for an to upgrade to my XDuoo 05 DAC/Amp with burson v5i op amp, and I don't know if this would be the right move. I mean, if I pick up the Burson Playmate 2 with the discount, including 4 burson v6 vivid, which would cost $531. I does look like a pretty good deal and after watching/reading review, evidently it'll sound way better than what I have. But, for that amount of money, could I get something a lot better with even the op amps included?

I'm not usually buying much headfi equipment, my headphones are the shure 1840, including my current XDuoo DAC/Amp. I was also watching the Ifi micro iDSD DAC/Amp. but I have no idea which one would sound better. Or if there's any other one which could be around that price and sound a lot better.

Any suggestions would be really appreciated. :)
I dont think you could go wrong if you decide to order Playmate 2. Based on my Conductor 3X Performance review the build quality should be excellent, meaning that device is probably gonna last for many, many years. I can't think of any other so well built DAC&AMP combos for such price at the moment.
 
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Sorry, I don't understand what power do you mean? My point was that C3 REF has more powerful headphone amplifier.

ps. Burson has released Cool Stand as a separate product: https://www.bursonaudio.com/product/cool-stand/

They seem to have 20% Off Pre-Chrismas Sale in case someone is interested. I've tested and the code '20OFF' seens to apply to Cool Stand as well.

please check the headphone output power: the C3 has only 0.58W at 300ohm and Playmate 2 has 150W at 300ohm. something tells me the spec is not right on Playmate 2 or C3 Ref.
 
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I dont think you could go wrong if you decide to order Playmate 2. Based on my Conductor 3X Performance review the build quality should be excellent, meaning that device is probably gonna last for many, many years. I can't think of any other so well built DAC&AMP combos for such price at the moment.
Thank you very much for your help!
 
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please check the headphone output power: the C3 has only 0.58W at 300ohm and Playmate 2 has 150W at 300ohm. something tells me the spec is not right on Playmate 2 or C3 Ref.
Looks like a typo. It should say mW starting at 100ohms.
 
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Nov 21, 2020 at 4:31 PM Post #13 of 81

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I thought about a typo too, kinda of mW instead of W for the 100, 150 & 300 Ohms values. But, I actually contacted Burson to double check the specs about the impedance / power values, and they indicated those are the right values:

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Still, it might look like an honest mistake.
 

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