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Bose Sues Beats for Patent Infringement

Discussion in 'Head-Fi Network & Industry News' started by jude, Jul 26, 2014.
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  1. GREQ
    I'm amazed at how many people believe Apple created the smartphone. 
    All they did was build upon existing ideas that were produced by other companies, but with an improved system, better style and much higher price tag.
    All they've really done is dominate an existing market some of the best marketing the world has ever seen.
  2. TripBitShooter
  3. Byrnie
    For the record, I know they didn't create the smartphone and if I implied otherwise, it was unintentional.
  4. GREQ
    The record has been amended. Let it be known henceforth that any mistakenly implied ignorance was unintentional and untrue.
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  5. DisCHORDDubstep
    I still think the Sony Walkmans. All apple did was change what people listen to music on.
  6. Byrnie
    Yup and I'm saying that had a huge impact on people who previously didn't want to carry multiple devices like a phone and an mp3 player.  Now people who didn't even own (or want to own) an mp3 player before can just use their phone.  Again just my opinion.
  7. DisCHORDDubstep
    dude. Your phone would be a flip phone in your pocket in the early 2000's, and you probably wouldn't have one in the 80's-90's. Walkmans made music portable. IPhone didn't... My opinion too... Except the Walkmans making music portable. That's a true statement.
  8. GREQ
    Not at all.
    There were plenty of phones before iPhones that had simple mp3 players.
    All you had to do was upgrade the memory size. The software was already embedded in the OS.
    I used to use my Sony Ericsson K750 (2005) as an mp3 player.
    This was a year and a half before the first iPhone (2007), and my K750 certainly wasn't the first phone that could do this.
  9. Byrnie
    No where have I stated that the iPhone made music portable so I'm not sure where you're trying to take this argument.  In fact, the argument was Beats vs iPhone...  I'm also not sure why you are bringing up flip phones given you didn't explain why...
  10. jude Administrator
    This discussion is off-topic, I know, but I wanted to comment about this (and similar sentiments).
    The iPhone was not the first smartphone, agreed. To the best of my knowledge, it was, however, the first of its type, and it changed the direction smartphones were going in. Who wasn't blown away after seeing the iPhone press conference? It's easy in the years since to forget that day. The first iPhone was far from perfect (no copy-paste, slow connectivity, etc.), but it was amazing for its time.
    A friend of mine was able to buy the first-gen iPhone early on, and the first thing I did was ask him if I could do a pinch-in / pinch-out photo re-size, as I thought perhaps the smooth demo of that function that Jobs was showing in the press conference was a pre-rigged animation, and it turns out it was real. Big deal in a phone now? No. Big deal in a phone then? Yes, absolutely. The things we take for granted now--the Minority-Report-type swiping and pinching of windows, objects, and text--was smooth and impressively done with that very first iPhone, despite its other issues. Again, this was new stuff in a phone then, and pushed future phones from others to also move in that direction.
    There was certainly more than marketing that day. I don't know which companies' ideas they built on, but I do know there was no other phone like the iPhone that I'd ever seen before the day it was unveiled.
    My point is not to debate where phones have gone since, or argue what's better now, only to say that the iPhone was beyond merely novel on the day of its announcement.
    (I currently own and use an iPhone 5S, Samsung Galaxy S4, Samsung Galaxy Note 3, and iPads.)
  11. GREQ
    My point was more in reference to other existing technologies 
    The tech was there, other companies were already producing simple touch screens for cash registers etc... Apple took the ideas, made their own tech and bundled it with incredibly intuitive controls.
    But yeah, generally I agree with your points.
    But did Apple revolutionize portable music? No. Just another stepping stone across the decades.
  12. cb3723


    News Flash: Beats sound good - same league as v-moda - only difference is perception bias due to perpetual beats bashing :wink:
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  13. DisCHORDDubstep
    I mean you wouldn't be really using multiple devices. The flip phone stays in your pocket unless you need to make a call. And when they didn't have cell phones, they had the walkman as their only device to carry. I'm saying that the companies making portable tape players back in the 70's-90's made portable headphones a thing. Then beats changed the perception of the public on headphones by having expensive good looking headphones that you can use everyday, everywhere. That made it so that spending $$$ on headphones wasn't so odd in the publics view. Sorry lol for keeping it derailed... Back on topic shall we?
  14. thatBeatsguy
    Same league as V-Moda? Don't know about you, but Studio 2 > M-100, hands down.
  15. TripBitShooter
    i only like the V-moda XS as it is not as bassy as the other V-modas. However it only has mediocre isolation and treble is still lacking in extension despite an improvement over the M80
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