[roma101]

Woops.... my hands just ordered a T51p somehow. Maybe it's because I sold my Amperiors a few weeks ago and have missed the DT-1350 since I sold them. Time to try something new and getting some headphones suitable for bringing with me on summer vacation plus a lot of other good arguments, suddenly made my hands move away from the work spreadsheet they should have been typing in instead.... 

Hey I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the T51P. I missed my DT1350 and got a T51P for the same reason. It definitely adds to the musicality and timbre I felt I was missing on the 1350 but I do miss the 1350's overall precision and bass extension. Would love to hear your thoughts as a fellow 1350 fan.

 

[rasmushorn]

Hey I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on the T51P. I missed my DT1350 and got a T51P for the same reason. It definitely adds to the musicality and timbre I felt I was missing on the 1350 but I do miss the 1350's overall precision and bass extension. Would love to hear your thoughts as a fellow 1350 fan.

I received the T51p yesterday. Since my ears have been used to the very bass light and highly detailed Tzar 350 in-ears over the last weeks, I was pretty disappointed when I connected the T51p to Meier Concerto yesterday. My first impression was what a boomy bass and total lack of details. I just did the usual when I get new gear, find the Reference Vocal Jazz recordings I have. Some classical and especially some female vocal jazz CD's I have. They just sounded distant and without any presence. They did not put through that fine High fidelity details I always listen for. Maybe it is time to get my ears adjusted and just listen to music instead of listening to gear?!?!
 
Well, since I knew the T50 and DT-1350 I knew that placement on the ears is crucial to get good sound. I spend some time finding the correct adjustment to the cups and the right placement on my ears and it helped a big deal. But I still wasn't that impressed. I let them play through the night at moderate volume in their portable bag. Last night I was at a pretty loud live 80's pop-concert and when I woke up this morning my ears needed some aggressive metal. I put on some good oldschool Living Sacrifice CD's - and THAT's when I found out why people love the T51p!!!! WOW - these do metal much better than the Amperiors I just parted with. Such instrument seperation even in the midst of an aggressive wall of sound they do not become muddy at all. Double pedals hit hard and defined. Their impact is just stunning in a punchy but by no means metallic way. 
 
Just like mentioned earlier in this thread - Beck's "Morning Phase" record sounds absolutely stunning with the T51p. I am going to love these deeply. And the LOOKS!!! I just love the design. I have a feeling that my BeoPlay H6 have been stored away for a long time.... 

 

[Anathema123]

I will be spending over 40 hours on airplanes over the summer.
 
Do you guys reckon these would be a good pick to use in-flight? From what I've read, they sound like a good choice.
 
Will they'd block out most of the annoying airplane noise?
&
How long can you wear them before your ears start to hurt?
 
Cheers!

 

[CJG888]

I use them as my go-to inflight cans. They beat even the HD25.

If you need more isolation, you'll have to go Bose

 

[roma101]

Rasmushorn, glad you're enjoying them and I totally agree about how good it sounds with metal. I don't listen to metal that often but one of the first things I listened to was Avenged Sevenfold and the PRaT and separation were great. These cans are pretty versatile with anything I have thrown at them. The bass is definitely a little north of neutral but definitely not overbearing to my ears. My only gripe is that I wished the soundstage was a little bigger but it's ok the imaging is pretty great.

How do you find that it compares to the H6? I have read the H6 is pretty neutral with a big soundstage. How's the bass extension? Any chance it goes as deep as the DT 1350? Thanks again for your impressions.

 

[rasmushorn]

How do you find that it compares to the H6? I have read the H6 is pretty neutral with a big soundstage. How's the bass extension? Any chance it goes as deep as the DT 1350? Thanks again for your impressions.

I just did a little changing between H6 and T51p to answer your question
 
There is no question that the H6 has more forward treble and mids and bigger soundstage compared to T51p. H6 goes just as deep as T51p and the bass is much more balanced. The bass stands out too much with some genres on the T51p imho and I also think it lacks in treble presence. Soundwise the H6 are better in most ways. The difference is even bigger when using an amplifier. The T51p doesn't really react to being amplified whereas the H6 scales up with faster bass and more air between the instruments when driven by for instance my Quickstep compared to directly from the iPhone 6+. I wouldn't notice these things if I used the T51p alone. But changing between the H6 and T51p makes it clear that there is a bigger window into the music with H6. 
 
For some people the H6 are too bright and lacks bass impact. I am sure they will find the T51p to sound better and have more body. I also find that for some genres the H6 is not suitable - metal being one fo them. There is much better impact and punch in the bass with the T51p. The T51p really brings out the acoustic bass when listening to jazz but saxophones are brought too much backwards and almost hidden away in the background where H6 has more focus on the mids. So H6 and T51p are very different.
 
All this is bearing in mind that the retail list price of the H6 is twice the price of T51p. I still like the T51p and I truly enjoy listening to them. There is so much fun in the way they play music - except classical and most jazz recordings. But everything else they shine.  
 
I just did a comparison with the BeoPlay H2 too. BeoPlay H2 is sold for circa the same price as T51p.... The T51p totally destroys the H2 in every way!!! H2 is made of plastic and feels like cheap rubber and plastic in comparison to the T51p. The sound in the H2 is muffled and closed compared to T51p. There is no slam or punch in H2, no definition, resolution in the music. Forget about BeoPlay H2 - buy T51p if you want a good on-ear headphone!

 

[rasmushorn]

The BeoPlay H6 and the Beyerdynamic T51p. Just to show the difference in size. Obviously the T51p is much more portable and much easier to carry around in a bag. The T51p design is very appealing to me. I love leather cushions on both headphones. 
 

 
The BeoPlay H2 on the other hand does not get my respect in any way... I even prefer the PortaPro to the H2. Sorry. 
 

 

[roma101]

Awesome thank you very much for your comparison and impressions rasmushorn!!! It's so very much appreciated and from your description, it's very clear how the two compare. Makes them sound like good complements to each other. The thing I do love about the t51p is the body it adds to the music but sometimes the bass can be intrusive on some genres. Thanks also for noting that about the H3, glad to know to steer clear of that hp. Have you heard the Focal Spirit Pro? I am wondering how that compares with the H6, since it might be similar in overall presentation from what I have read. Neutral, transparent, wider soundstage, etc. That is my next can to try, I think as well as the H6.

 

[roma101]

Wow incredible. Goes to show how high in level some companies go with their circumaurals as opposed to their supra-aurals. Kind of like with B&W with the P3. Thank you for the posting those photos and what a beautiful cable on your H6!

 

[rasmushorn]

  Have you heard the Focal Spirit Pro? 

I never got to listen to the Focal Spirit. Except very briefly on my way out of the door at a meet. I don't remember anything about how they sound though. 
 
The cable on my H6 is this silver cable. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171436801450?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
Not very flexible, but looks nicer than the stock cable.

 

[rasmushorn]

I have to change my opinion a bit. The T51p does react when used with my Quickstep compared to directly from the iPhone headphone out. There is better treble and a bit less bass and the T51p does open up the sound a bit. I did not notice this in the beginning but there is a change and it is for the better. I just wanted to add that to my initial impressions.

 

[CJG888]

I remarked on this in a previous post. IMO, the T51p is under-damped, and it needs a beast of an amp to get it under control. It sounds really good on the end of the SA-31...

 

[roma101]

I haven't done enough testing with my amps, I will now.

 

[headwhacker]

Very different. The SR225i are bright, clean and open, but have little in the way of soundstage. They are very easy to drive. As they have almost total sound leakage, they are not really suited to portable use.

The T51p have a warm, dark, almost HD650- like signature. They isolate extremely well, but need an amp (or a powerful specialist DAP) to give of their best (IMO). Driven properly, they offer a superior soundstage and plenty of detail. For a portable, they scale extremely well.

Also, don't forget the HD25.... If you want a bright, aggressive sound in a portable form factor with good isolation, these could also be an option.

 
You call SR225i very easy to drive yet requires an amp for T51p. That doesn't make sense. T51p is easier to drive than any of the Grados.

 

[rasmushorn]

   
You call SR225i very easy to drive yet requires an amp for T51p. That doesn't make sense. T51p is easier to drive than any of the Grados.

What do you mean by "easier do drive"?
Is that by looking at the impedance or from listening experience with different amplifiers?