[kool bubba ice]

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Originally Posted by 3602 /img/forum/go_quote.gif So really, what does "musicality" really mean with headphones, really? Headphones shouldn't be called "musical" at all, they're not instruments.

Musicality is in the music.. But the term musical headphone, usually means a colored headphone with exagerations & audio tricks to enhance the musical experience..

 

[3602]

Ah. Colors. Don't like that.
So higher ohmage beyers are more musical because they color the sound more? Then no thanks. I'll stick to my 32 Ohm one.

 

[wmf]

.thanks for the responses. actually i dont get a lot of time to sit and listen to music, and its just gaming mostly. i might change track, and just go the denon 2000s. as the above poster (pytter) said, i would save quite some money doing it that way. and then maybe down the track, get some better stuff. beyers recabled, with a nice ss amp.. : P ..only issue i MAY have with the d2000s are build quality seems pretty average. i dont think i mentioned tube amps in my recommendations, I would go SS if anything.
thanks again.

if i knew that a 32ohm beyer 880 would run ok from the titanium fatal1ty pro sound card, i wouldnt hesitate to purchase... but ive been informed that all the beyers, no matter what the ohm, they need an amp.
i believe the d2000s run quite happily unamped. altho obviously would sound better with some type of ampage.

 

[chinesekiwi]

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Originally Posted by 3602 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Ah. Colors. Don't like that. So higher ohmage beyers are more musical because they color the sound more? Then no thanks. I'll stick to my 32 Ohm one.

No!!! >.<

All headphones are colored. ALL.

 

[chinesekiwi]

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Originally Posted by pytter /img/forum/go_quote.gif I am very confused.... I just don't get why anyone thinks the purchasing the DT880s specifically for gaming is a good idea - let alone the 600ohm version. I have a pair of these and they are not at all forgiving on the source. Quite a few of my CDs sound disappointing as the DT880s highlights each flaw in the repsective recording - what a less than stellar quality gaming soundtrack or sound effects will sound like I don't know - but I doubt you will enjoy it!

Sound quality isn't as important in directional gaming e.g. FPS's as the accuracy of the sound i.e. where it's coming from. Atmospheric gaming, such as Fallout 3, RPG's etc..usually have better sound production.

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Originally Posted by pytter /img/forum/go_quote.gif In conclusion, surely there are better suited cans for gaming? If you intend to spend this kind of money then I recall that Denon AH-D2000 were recommended for this kind of use in another post (sorry can't seem to find the actual) - and you may get away without then need for an amp to boot, saving you some more cash!

As I said, the 32 ohm version is fine for gaming as the soundstage properties don't change much with the different DT880's. the 32, 250 and 600 ohm DT880's all use different drivers thus for music, they are different.

A 32 ohm DT880 would run fine as it's low impedance.....

 

[3602]

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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi /img/forum/go_quote.gif No!!! >.< All headphones are colored. ALL.

Yee... I mean, are the higher impedance versions more colored than the 32 ohm one? Because I want (like) the least colored sound possible, and I can't really afford an HD800 or T1.
PS: Are you Chinese or is that just an ID?

 

[Helmore]

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Originally Posted by pytter /img/forum/go_quote.gif I am very confused.... I just don't get why anyone thinks the purchasing the DT880s specifically for gaming is a good idea - let alone the 600ohm version. I have a pair of these and they are not at all forgiving on the source. Quite a few of my CDs sound disappointing as the DT880s highlights each flaw in the repsective recording - what a less than stellar quality gaming soundtrack or sound effects will sound like I don't know - but I doubt you will enjoy it! If you did go for them anyway, you will indeed need an amp - but a tube amp for gaming? are you kidding? Surely you want a pair of cans / amp combination that are fast, punchy and fairly forgiving of the source material? Why anyone would want to recommend a tube amp for gaming is beyond me - surely all the strengths of a tube is mid-range and vocals - wouldn't you be better off with a good SS amp? Tight bass and sound effects must be high on the list of criteria surely? In conclusion, surely there are better suited cans for gaming? If you intend to spend this kind of money then I recall that Denon AH-D2000 were recommended for this kind of use in another post (sorry can't seem to find the actual) - and you may get away without then need for an amp to boot, saving you some more cash!

That depends on what you want. If you're playing a FPS like CoD: Modern Warfare 2 for example then good, realistic and accurate imaging is very nice to have. It adds to the immersion and will help in pin pointing where your opponents are coming from. In that case you wouldn't really want to use something like the D2000 and a forgiving source+amp. The D2000 has too much bass and that drowns out all other environmental cues you need to determine where something is coming from, like footsteps for example.

If you play something like The Witcher or Fallout 3 then things like accurate imaging and soundstaging is not as improtant and you are more likely to just want to enjoy the atmosphere. In that case the D2000 will give you a different experience than a DT880, but either of the two will be very nice and going with the D2000 would be a pretty good choice.

You also have to consider that in game sound is not at a standstill and there are games with very good sound quality. There are game developers that do care about the sound quality of their games, like DICE the makes of Battlefield:Bad Company. Here is a blog post about their commitment to audio in their upcoming game BF:Bad Company 2 :Battlefield Blog
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Originally Posted by 3602 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yee... I mean, are the higher impedance versions more colored than the 32 ohm one? Because I want (like) the least colored sound possible, and I can't really afford an HD800 or T1. PS: Are you Chinese or is that just an ID?

How would you define 'least colored'? What some people consider to be uncolored is not what some other would consider uncolored. There are those who consider the Beyerdynamic DT48 to be pretty much uncolored, while others think it sounds unnatural. Does that mean that something has to be colored for it to sound natural, or the DT48 is also colored.

 

[kool bubba ice]

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Originally Posted by chinesekiwi /img/forum/go_quote.gif No!!! >.< All headphones are colored. ALL.

No.

 

[kool bubba ice]

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Originally Posted by Helmore /img/forum/go_quote.gif That depends on what you want. If you're playing a FPS like CoD: Modern Warfare 2 for example then good, realistic and accurate imaging is very nice to have. It adds to the immersion and will help in pin pointing where your opponents are coming from. In that case you wouldn't really want to use something like the D2000 and a forgiving source+amp. The D2000 has too much bass and that drowns out all other environmental cues you need to determine where something is coming from, like footsteps for example. If you play something like The Witcher or Fallout 3 then things like accurate imaging and soundstaging is not as improtant and you are more likely to just want to enjoy the atmosphere. In that case the D2000 will give you a different experience than a DT880, but either of the two will be very nice and going with the D2000 would be a pretty good choice. You also have to consider that in game sound is not at a standstill and there are games with very good sound quality. There are game developers that do care about the sound quality of their games, like DICE the makes of Battlefield:Bad Company. Here is a blog post about their commitment to audio in their upcoming game BF:Bad Company 2 :Battlefield Blog How would you define 'least colored'? What some people consider to be uncolored is not what some other would consider uncolored. There are those who consider the Beyerdynamic DT48 to be pretty much uncolored, while others think it sounds unnatural. Does that mean that something has to be colored for it to sound natural, or the DT48 is also colored.

According to the DATA sheet for the DT48a, the sounds uncolored. These are audio metric headphones.. Why in the hell would a headphone used in lab test & measurements be colored? It's silly. Not attacking you. & the NAGRA DT48 makes the newer DT48 sound a bit colored, which is crazy in itself..Listen to the NAGRA DT48s from the 50's.. The sound is like black & white..In general 98% of all headphones are colored to some degree, but not all..

From the DATA sheet. & I quote "produces no colorization or distortion of the signal." So, if anyone wants to call Beyerdynamic a bunch of liars be my guest.. But they actually created the headphone, & is used by the medical community & reserach labs, not for audiophiles who argue about sparkling highs..