Beyer DTX700/800/900 vs Senn HD25SP HD280PRO HD515 vs Sony XD400

[PDream]

Hello there.

I have gotten lots of ideas since my last topic and felt it was too old for use. Thus a new topic. in the title, you see that Ive selected headphones that interest me. Here comes the deal:

I have access to Beyer the easiest (that must be a first, its because a shop close to me sells beyers but no senns), but they are open cans. I am using these headphones for both portable (unamped) use, and at home, and as of yet havent had a single open headphone that I liked. These fit like closed, but since I go on the bus, I feel Ill need to pump out all I can get from...My tiny mp3 player... to hear them.

I am looking for the best phone that I can get for this money, and if the beyers are extremely good, please tell me.

I am also interested in the three Senns, slightly over my budget but not too much to realy worry about it (I have to save up a few weeks more, boohoo), yet I kind of like my dad's HD-25, and I hope the SP version is just as good (Or close). The HD280 seems like a very good phone, closed, blocks lots of sound, has good sound, and a lower impedance than the other Senn. And the HD515..{The Hd515 interests me because it is said to give great sound, but its open like the beyers, bigger, and I dont enjoy its look all too much.

Lastly, the newcomer XD400...Closed, not sure about blocking sound, and a nice price. They also have a short cable, right? With extension? (that would be good, since my player bounces around my belly) I have read that their sound is quite nice. Bad thing is that they'll take a while to get, which is quite a big down.

the beyers seem very nice yet still, I'd buy the DTX700 because of its lower price, which would allow me to buy a Koss or somthing, which I need because my hair is too wet in the mornings.

Is there an option I left out?

 

[spike33]

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Originally Posted by PDream And the HD515..{The Hd515 interests me because it is said to give great sound, but its open like the beyers, bigger, and I dont enjoy its look all too much.

It is? that's a first... I've never seen it recommended, ever.

 

[PDream]

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Originally Posted by spike33 It is? that's a first... I've never seen it recommended, ever.

-Whistles- http://www.headphone.com/layout.php?...tID=0020080515

 

[PDream]

Just a minor bump Is this such a hard question?

 

[1UP]

The DTX range is solid, but I wouldn't want to use them for portable cause the cable's too long, they leak/don't isolate, they're kind of big

I'd get some in-ears for portable, and something else for home

 

[PDream]

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Originally Posted by 1UP The DTX range is solid, but I wouldn't want to use them for portable cause the cable's too long, they leak/don't isolate, they're kind of big I'd get some in-ears for portable, and something else for home

See my profile: Ex-71's. I am not happy with in-ears, because A: They dont sound all too well and B: I am now taking some stuff to get my hearing normal again.

I specificaly want one of the ones mentioned unless there is something that looks around the same but it very much better (and easy to get)

How much do the DTX's leak?

 

[renesis_au]

hi, i'm interested in the dtx900s, i've searched the forums and there haven't been too many reviews on this beyer model. maybe because it is relatively new. I have found a great price for these in australia, and was wondering if anybody have heard these? so far from what i have read, it sounsd pretty good, so if anyone can offer any meaningful comparisons, for example compared to the MS1, HD555, et al. Thanks guys.

 

[1UP]

They leak a lot. They were my first Beyers. There are many reviews; check out JensL's "fairly huge comparison", also mine!

 

[PDream]

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Originally Posted by 1UP They leak a lot. They were my first Beyers. There are many reviews; check out JensL's "fairly huge comparison", also mine!

I have read it before. (The fairly huge comparison made them sound very good)

I am just getting more and more annoyed, especialy since it's like the Senns havent ever been bought, while the opposite is true.

 

[mektarus]

Let me start by saying that I have no personal experience with any of these. However, aside from the headroom review of the 515's I have never seen anyone recommend them on this board. Now, that being said, if you Froogle the HD555's you can find several places selling refurb'ed units for $10 - $15 more that new 515's. Sennheiser refurb's are supposed to be nearly indistinguishable from new and at this price should take the 515's out of the running.

Personally (and again, this is based purely on instinct and speculation) I would go for the DTX900 or the HD555. Also, have you considered the Grado / Alessandro lines?

Good Luck and have fun.

 

[PDream]

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Originally Posted by mektarus Let me start by saying that I have no personal experience with any of these. However, aside from the headroom review of the 515's I have never seen anyone recommend them on this board. Now, that being said, if you Froogle the HD555's you can find several places selling refurb'ed units for $10 - $15 more that new 515's. Sennheiser refurb's are supposed to be nearly indistinguishable from new and at this price should take the 515's out of the running. Personally (and again, this is based purely on instinct and speculation) I would go for the DTX900 or the HD555. Also, have you considered the Grado / Alessandro lines? Good Luck and have fun.

I, as I have stated like a million times (Not blaming you for not finding it, dont think it was that thread) do not have access to everythin.g grados and Allessandro are very nice, maybe, but just not available.
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The DTX900 seems like a choice that has very little downs, except for the annoying part about the wire length.
The HD555...Well, I feel that the price is too far over my budget. They are also huge, and slightly harder to drive than the DTX900's. I feel that I will not enjoy them as much as a comparably small phone...

What iss o bad about the 515? Is the diffewrence so big that it can be justifief to save up for a while? I can find it for 129 euros on the net, so it'd take me a bit to save up. I like their looks, but other people dont, and they WILL be used on the go. They offer no isolation, right? And the DTX900's dont either, but seem a little nicer. Do they leak?

Edit: Also, in this price range, I can go for the HD25SP and the HD280 Pro, two headphones that interest me greatly. I just like Closed phones more. Especialy since they're for on-the-go, and both of them seem more made for it.

 

[mektarus]

Well, like I said, I have no personal experience with any of these cans. Here (link ) is a link to a good review of the HD5x5 series by one of the most trusted members of Head-Fi. Also, if you ever want to try what many consider to be among the best bang for you buck cans around, Alessandro (link ) offers free worldwide shipping and the MS-1 is only $99 (about 77 euros). However, they are VERY open. The HD280's are well liked by many here (especially after the blue-tak mod). Beyers are also very well liked here but the DTX line has been hard to get in the States so very few have any experience with them. Given their track record, I would feel pretty comfortable taking a chance on the Beyers. Do you have access to the Beyer DT231? It's a reasonably priced closed can (although it leaks a fair amount) with excellent sound. I have them and they really are awesome beyond their cost. Again, please take this all with a grain of salt.

 

[PDream]

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Originally Posted by mektarus Well, like I said, I have no personal experience with any of these cans. Here (link ) is a link to a good review of the HD5x5 series by one of the most trusted members of Head-Fi. Also, if you ever want to try what many consider to be among the best bang for you buck cans around, Alessandro (link ) offers free worldwide shipping and the MS-1 is only $99 (about 77 euros). However, they are VERY open. The HD280's are well liked by many here (especially after the blue-tak mod). Beyers are also very well liked here but the DTX line has been hard to get in the States so very few have any experience with them. Given their track record, I would feel pretty comfortable taking a chance on the Beyers. Do you have access to the Beyer DT231? It's a reasonably priced closed can (although it leaks a fair amount) with excellent sound. I have them and they really are awesome beyond their cost. Again, please take this all with a grain of salt.

Thank you for the link!

Ive read about the HD 515/555/595 and it is interesting, to say the least. Im sitll reading a bit, and will search some more. I have access to the beyers, as I have stated, less than five minutes from my house walking, and I can order them.

However...DAMN, they are UGLY as HELL. Sorry for the cuss, but...My god....I would go for the DTX900 just because of the beter looks.

Allessandro are widely recommended, and I realy just ignored it for a while. i shouldn't, realy, Im looking a tthem right now, as well. They seem a steal because of the free shipping you're mentioning, will they deliver better sound than a DTX900, you think?

 

[mektarus]

Well, from what I've read I would expect the MS-1's to be better. At the very least, they will be different. Grado/Alessandro have a pretty distinctive sound. They are very forward and in your face but in a good way. This makes them excellent for rock, jazz and any "fast" music. I have Grado SR-80's and think they sound great for all types of music. The MS-1's are supposed to be even a step up from there and sound a bit more refined and balanced. If you get them, I also recommend trying to get a pair (or 2) of the Sennheiser 414 pads (link ) and modding them with a quarter sized hole in the middle. It really makes them shine.

Also, if you are interested in the HD280's, here is a link to some for sale by a European seller here on Head-fi. It's a great price for a European buyer. Heck, at this price the Ultrasones might be worth looking at.

 

[PDream]

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Originally Posted by mektarus Well, from what I've read I would expect the MS-1's to be better. At the very least, they will be different. Grado/Alessandro have a pretty distinctive sound. They are very forward and in your face but in a good way. This makes them excellent for rock, jazz and any "fast" music. I have Grado SR-80's and think they sound great for all types of music. The MS-1's are supposed to be even a step up from there and sound a bit more refined and balanced. If you get them, I also recommend trying to get a pair (or 2) of the Sennheiser 414 pads (link ) and modding them with a quarter sized hole in the middle. It really makes them shine.

They sound perfect for my rock-head, becuase all I listen to is rock. I cant check out how the pads are supposed to lok becuas the link ir broken, but it's not that important.
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Originally Posted by mektarus Also, if you are interested in the HD280's, here is a link to some for sale by a European seller here on Head-fi. It's a great price for a European buyer. Heck, at this price the Ultrasones might be worth looking at.

You're making this very hard on me, do you know that? I mean, the MS-1's are very nice, but these are very nice as well. Im gonna head to bed, think about it.

It looks like this would become my first online-order. I dont have a credit card and dont have paypal, and will not be able tog et them. Thus, Id strongly prefer to send it under rembours (not sure if you guys know that word, it means that you pay when you recieve it at your door), and since only larger shops seem to do that, it's rahter higher priced. Here's the pricing for the Senns, count around 7.50 more for rembour + shipping:

Sennheiser HD280PRO black 119,00
Sennheiser HD555 129,00
Sennheiser HD25 SP 105,00
Sennheiser HD515 99,95

The Beyers in this thread are from 75 to 93 or so, no shipping I think, and certainly no rembour added. (note that these are prices that I can get)

The price of the MS-1 is known.