best TWS under $100
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Lypertek TEVI
ANKER SOUNDCORE LIBERTY 2 PRO
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just want the best sound under $100

bonus if top tier and under $50

I ordered the TWS600 because I want to torture myself btw
 
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I'm leaning Lypertek TEVI for the insane technical specs and moderate price along with just slightly lower than others performance and neutral-ish with slight bass sound signature

specifically 70 hours charge time
independent sound volume allowing for much higher sound levels (a problem with my current $25 TWS and most I think)
physical touch button (another problem, probably applies to most TWS)
IPX7 full submersion waterproof

from what I read it's on par or just a step behind the $100+ galaxy buds/buds+ and soundcore liberty 2 pro while having less hiss than the latter and the IPX2 of the galaxy being complete garbage

honestly the tech specs are supreme overkill and not really what i want it for besides the button and independent volume but slightly worse audio and saving $30 + that makes it my frontrunner

about time I bought something good for myself (TWS600 doesn't count as good lol) since my last $1500 spent has been determined by votes from this forum if anyone pulls something from their bum that beats it please let me know and

@HiFiHawaii808 I appreciate the knowledge, it seems like those are really in the top 5 by anyones book at just about any price I will keep my eyes peeled for a palatable set of those renewed in the future, I assume at some point the new ones will come down more or be replaced by a newer cheaper model or I will find a great deal somewhere
 
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Best sound imho.
 
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Best sound imho.
wow, didn't know senn made an affordable pair, assuming it's a variant on the traditional mid forward good bass senn is known for? When I get down my positions like I did with my cans (neutral/mid focus/v shaped) I could go for another $100 into senns after how good a value the 6XX really are, not my favorite but really priceless experience
 
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wow, didn't know senn made an affordable pair, assuming it's a variant on the traditional mid forward good bass senn is known for? When I get down my positions like I did with my cans (neutral/mid focus/v shaped) I could go for another $100 into senns after how good a value the 6XX really are, not my favorite but really priceless experience

I just got those same Senns in the same sale and wasn't impressed. Excellent soundstage and imaging, but damn, the sound is SO thin. There's no bass. I'm not a basshead, but those buds have the classic Sennheiser sound -- clear mids and highs, with thin bass. Plus they have no IPX waterproofing rating and a weird fit because of their square shape.

At your price range, I recommend the Cambridge Audio Melomania 1 or Helm Audio Truly Wireless 5.0.

The Melomania 1's have nice, balanced sound. Bass is present but not bloated. Clear mids and highs. Three negatives, though. One, the bullet-like shape isn't for everyone and could lead to a weird, uncomfortable fit. Two, the Melomania's don't get very loud. If you like to harass your ear drums, these aren't your buds. Three, the Melomania's don't come with an app.

Since October, I've tried quite a few earbud models, including the Lypertek Tevi (very good despite hot mids), Cambridge Audio Melomania 1 (excellent), FIIL T1X (mids a bit too hot and elevated), Sony WF-1000XM3 (bloated, uncontrolled bass, just like Sony over-ears), Anker Soundcore Liberty 2 Pro (crap - unbelievably overrated), Soundpeats TruEngine 3 SE (not bad for $50) and Sennheiser CX 400BT (excellent soundstage but tinny sound -- no bass).

None of the above worked just right for me, either for sound or comfort, so I gave up on IEMs for a while and just focused on the sweet sound from my Meze 99 Classics closed-back over-ears. But then I saw a Flash deal on Amazon for the Helm Audio True Wireless 5.0 last Wednesday for $90, down from their normal $130. I watched and read a few reviews online, and they were largely positive, so I thought: "What the hell? These look solid. I'll give them a go on sale."

My initial reaction after about three or four hours of listening with the Helm True Wireless 5.0 is, "Why the hell aren't more people talking about these?" I think they're excellent, rivaled only by the Cambridge Audio Melomania 1 in my list above. And I still think the Helm's are slightly better.

Many reviewers either complain or praise the Helm's for a lot of bass. It's true -- these babies go down low in ample supply. But it never bleeds or bloats into the mids like the Sony's, and it doesn't sound artificial as hell like the Anker Liberty 2 Pros. The midrange and highs are solid.

I would describe the sound quality as U-shaped. It's not nearly as V-shaped as some reviewers describe. It's vibrant, fun -- much like the Meze 99 Classics that I adore.

Other plusses of the Helm Audio are separation and imaging. While the soundstage isn't massive, you definitely get a good sense of where each instrument is placed. Plus there's also minimal grain in the treble. I'm not a basshead -- I like rich, smooth bass that stays in its place -- but I'm also sensitive to shrill and grainy treble. These roll off at just the right spot, with good detail.

The Sennheiser CX 400BT that I've most recently tested have wider soundstage and slightly better separation than the Helm's, but their sound is thin and tinny. Prominent mids -- the usual Sennheiser sound. Clinical but not engaging. Plus they're $200 at full price, with no IPX rating.

These are the first buds I've heard that have rich, warm bass that resembles those of a quality over-ear can. No, they're not as resonant or clear as my Meze 99 Classics. But they have a fun sound signature that works with a lot of different kinds of music.

Yes, much like the Meze 99 Classics, these are not buds for those who want a totally neutral sound signature or who worship the Harman Curve like a deity. But also like the 99 Classics, holy hell, they're a fun listen that is far more entertaining than some neutral, studio cans and buds I've tried. Isn't that what this hobby is about?

The Helms have AptX and AAC. They have battery life of about six to eight hours, with about 25-30 in the charging case. I like the diamond-cut look of the exterior, and the button is tactile and less finicky than many touch controls on buds. The fit also is excellent, as the one-size-fits-all wing locks the bud into your ear. And these buds have the best Bluetooth range of any I've tried, reportedly 60 feet. These stay connected in areas of my house where other buds lose signal.

Frankly, these buds have stunned me. They're the best I've heard in the price range, and they're on sale pretty often for less than $100. Helm also offers a 50 percent discount to first responders, which is cool as hell. About the only thing lacking with these buds is no app. That would have been a big plus, but I'm happy with the stock sound signature. Plus I can use music app-based EQ to tune the sound on my iPhone.

I'm pleased as hell with the Helm Audio True Wireless 5.0. I'm also surprised more people aren't talking about them in this and other headphone/earbud subreddits.
 
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thanks @pk4425 I jumped the gun on the Tevi's I didn't expect anything this good
I'm putting the Helms on my shortlist for best around $120 when I come back to buy it seems the IEM game is one of advertising as even the sony's are down to $120
let me know if you get a chance to sample the AKG N400's I heard they are supposed top tier and the Galaxy buds are supposed to be better than the buds+
oh and by the way the first thing I thought when I looked up the helms when you first mentioned them is I too love that diamond cut, honestly as bad as the TWS600 may sound I did buy them to flex, so I don't have to take out expensive IEMs or use my $25 throwaway bass canons
also the insane range and zero lag are appealing, really just hoping I am one of the few who like the sound xD
also I heard some strong dissenting opinions the soundcoure 2 pros were overrated at best and sound cheap which sounds about right for a company that can afford such a heavy marketing campaign while just burning money and sending people new buds constantly instead of just fixing the ****ing hiss

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thanks @pk4425 I jumped the gun on the Tevi's I didn't expect anything this good
I'm putting the Helms on my shortlist for best around $120 when I come back to buy it seems the IEM game is one of advertising as even the sony's are down to $120
let me know if you get a chance to sample the AKG N400's I heard they are supposed top tier and the Galaxy buds are supposed to be better than the buds+
oh and by the way the first thing I thought when I looked up the helms when you first mentioned them is I too love that diamond cut, honestly as bad as the TWS600 may sound I did buy them to flex, so I don't have to take out expensive IEMs or use my $25 throwaway bass canons
also the insane range and zero lag are appealing, really just hoping I am one of the few who like the sound xD
also I heard some strong dissenting opinions the soundcoure 2 pros were overrated at best and sound cheap which sounds about right for a company that can afford such a heavy marketing campaign while just burning money and sending people new buds constantly instead of just fixing the ****ing hiss

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ich lebe eine Amerika

The Tevis are REALLY good and are a steal at $80 USD. One of the most neutral-sounding buds I've heard. Mid-forward, for sure, so they're excellent with vocal and acoustic music. Enjoy them!

The Liberty 2 Pro's are easily the most disappointing earbuds I've heard. A lot of people praise them as the Second Coming, and I think the sound is artificial as hell.

It's almost like Anker asked audio engineers to isolate themselves in rooms called "Bass," "Mids" and "Highs," devising perceived perfect sound signatures in those categories without talking with each other. There's no cohesion, no unity in the overall tone and sound signature, even with the multiple EQ presets provided.

The Liberty 2 Pro's are the Chickenfoot or Velvet Revolver of IEMs. The individual players/parts look incredible. Put them together into a band/earbud, and they suck.
 
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I just got those same Senns in the same sale and wasn't impressed. Excellent soundstage and imaging, but damn, the sound is SO thin. There's no bass. I'm not a basshead, but those buds have the classic Sennheiser sound -- clear mids and highs, with thin bass. Plus they have no IPX waterproofing rating and a weird fit because of their square shape.

The Sennheiser CX 400BT that I've most recently tested have wider soundstage and slightly better separation than the Helm's, but their sound is thin and tinny. Prominent mids -- the usual Sennheiser sound. Clinical but not engaging. Plus they're $200 at full price, with no IPX rating.

Sounds like you need some work on the fit maybe different tips. If possible that is. Stupid design by Senn(not the first time from them for sure).
 
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Thanks. The fit issue had nothing to do with my ear canals. It had to do with the square shape of the buds pressing hard against parts of my ear cartilage.
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