CHIFI LOVE Thread-A never ending IEM-Heaphones-DAP-Dongles Sound Value Quest
Oct 23, 2017 at 10:01 PM Post #4,051 of 31,831
Thanks B9.

The frustrating thing is that @Wiljen says the exact opposite: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chi...phones-and-iems.820747/page-833#post-13802511

I know we all hear things differently, but conflicting impressions never make decisions any easier LOL.

I just read B9's remarks and I have to wonder if maybe that OEM isn't the same thing as the K3 HD. I read his notes on several others and they were all in line with my listening and then hit that one and it is just a polar opposite. I don't think either of us suddenly went tone deaf so I have to think something hardware wise is off.
 
Oct 23, 2017 at 10:01 PM Post #4,052 of 31,831
Thanks B9.

The frustrating thing is that @Wiljen says the exact opposite: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/chi...phones-and-iems.820747/page-833#post-13802511

I know we all hear things differently, but conflicting impressions never make decisions any easier LOL.

Also, are you 100% positive on the quad driver thing? Because some manufacturers state their # of drivers in PAIRS not individually. In other words, they list an IEM as "2 BA+2 DD", "6 drivers", etc when in reality they are adding up all of the drivers for the PAIR (for more impressive marketing).

And any idea if it has a crossover?

Yeah, I saw that post after I put mine down. Remember I'm comparing to what is essentialy the first version of the K3 without changeable filters, just rebranded for the NA market under Audbos.

I'm 99% sure the DM5 is 4 drivers per side. DSNuts or someone else verified it a while back. Also seen 8 drivers total mentioned on some other random sites sites. I can always double check with Penon tomorrow for you.
 
Oct 23, 2017 at 10:02 PM Post #4,053 of 31,831
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Oct 23, 2017 at 10:15 PM Post #4,055 of 31,831
I just read B9's remarks and I have to wonder if maybe that OEM isn't the same thing as the K3 HD. I read his notes on several others and they were all in line with my listening and then hit that one and it is just a polar opposite. I don't think either of us suddenly went tone deaf so I have to think something hardware wise is off.

Zero difference between the Magaosi K3 and the Audbos. It's literally a branding difference for their Amazon store.
 
Oct 23, 2017 at 10:16 PM Post #4,056 of 31,831
Yeah, I saw that post after I put mine down. Remember I'm comparing to what is essentialy the first version of the K3 without changeable filters, just rebranded for the NA market under Audbos.

I'm 99% sure the DM5 is 4 drivers per side. DSNuts or someone else verified it a while back. Also seen 8 drivers total mentioned on some other random sites sites. I can always double check with Penon tomorrow for you.

Cool, thanks bud.
 
Oct 23, 2017 at 10:39 PM Post #4,057 of 31,831
A local Head-fier has those and I took a listen a while back. Didn't have my CI880 with me at the time though. Will have to take another listen to them side by side to make sure they're definitely the same. Looked and sounded the part based on memory though.
@Vidal did some digging and I believe he turned up that they're sold as a white label product, hence finding them under a variety of different brandings but still the same items (and typically tagged somewhere with the internal model number of C630 if memory serves)
 
Oct 24, 2017 at 7:49 AM Post #4,060 of 31,831
I'm 99% sure the DM5 is 4 drivers per side. DSNuts or someone else verified it a while back.

Might have been Audio123 that confirmed it as he reviewed it. Funny thing is his thoughts on the DM5 are more in line with mine than B9s. I tried to see if he had reviewed any version of the K3 just to compare but can't find it if he has.

From spec sheet:

  • Model :BGVP DM5
  • Driver: 2 Balanced Armature + 2 Graphene Composite Dynamic Driver
  • Sensitivity: 120Db/mW
  • Impedance: 16ohm
  • Frequency response: 10 Hz - 40000 Hz
  • Cable Length: 1.2m
So the question is, is that per side or in total? I'm pretty sure B9 is correct but it does leave a little to be desired in specificity.
 
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Oct 24, 2017 at 7:53 AM Post #4,061 of 31,831
Yeah the Betnew are promoting their in-house BT module with the H1. Specs are 70 mAh and 6 hours of usage. It is BT 4.1 and supports Apt-X.

I think the 9 Ohm impedance coupled with 96 dB sensitivity should be similar to something 12 Ohm and 120 dB sensitivity?
has anyone actually heard these? any reason to believe they're worthwhile?
 
Oct 24, 2017 at 7:56 AM Post #4,062 of 31,831
Ok, to cheat a bit, and push the limit up to $200 for sake of 11.11 thoughts. If you already owned the K3 HD, the Phantom Master, Icarus III, Fiio F9, 1More Triple, and Denon AH-C300 which of the following would you pop for or would you wait for something better?

1.) LZ A4
2.) 1More Quad
3.) SW III
 
Oct 24, 2017 at 8:12 AM Post #4,063 of 31,831
Ok, to cheat a bit, and push the limit up to $200 for sake of 11.11 thoughts. If you already owned the K3 HD, the Phantom Master, Icarus III, Fiio F9, 1More Triple, and Denon AH-C300 which of the following would you pop for or would you wait for something better?

1.) LZ A4
2.) 1More Quad
3.) SW III
SW lll is mess of love and hate thing
 
Oct 24, 2017 at 8:16 AM Post #4,064 of 31,831
SW lll is mess of love and hate thing

So I have heard, I kinda listed them in the order I am thinking but some seem to think the Quad leapfrog's the A4.
 
Oct 24, 2017 at 9:08 AM Post #4,065 of 31,831
Might have been Audio123 that confirmed it as he reviewed it. Funny thing is his thoughts on the DM5 are more in line with mine than B9s. I tried to see if he had reviewed any version of the K3 just to compare but can't find it if he has.

From spec sheet:

  • Model :BGVP DM5
  • Driver: 2 Balanced Armature + 2 Graphene Composite Dynamic Driver
  • Sensitivity: 120Db/mW
  • Impedance: 16ohm
  • Frequency response: 10 Hz - 40000 Hz
  • Cable Length: 1.2m
So the question is, is that per side or in total? I'm pretty sure B9 is correct but it does leave a little to be desired in specificity.

Just sharing something I learnt today while shopping on Taobao, apparently graphene double diaphragm is considered dual drivers. However, it is physically only 1x 10mm unit per side.

I really hope I am not popping any bubbles here but apparently this is how they are marketing it.
 

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