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Best Smartphone for audiophile Part II (Updated: Mar 2019)

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by artpiggo, Jun 19, 2017.
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  1. sorieno
    Please add the Motorola Moto G/X/Z series to the list.

    I have a Moto G6 Plus (CS47L35 codec + CS35L35 amp) and the sound is more lively than the Samsung Galaxy A8 (2018) (DBMD4 from DSP Group). Both have Dolby Audio.

    deviceinfohw has a detailed database about smartphone specs here:http://www.deviceinfohw.ru/devices/index.php

    Linux drivers for Cirrus Logic Codecs have codenames: arizona or madera according to this site:https://github.com/CirrusLogic/linux-drivers/wiki

    Mine is equipped with madera drivers.
    Last edited: May 1, 2019
  2. artpiggo
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  3. cannondt
    I used your link above to see if I can get some information on the Vivo v7+. Under audio I get the following:
    I do not know how to interpret this, how can I conclude if this model has a DAC that can produce good audio from the HW info? Please help out if you can.

    Also what does it mean if audio is missing for a model?

    Also curiously - the G6 plus. It is competitively priced here but the reviews all pan it hard - take a look here https://www.amazon.in/Moto-G6-Plus-...KF/ref=olp_product_details?_encoding=UTF8&me= if you are curious. Would like your opinion if possible!
    Last edited: May 1, 2019
  4. Starfinder
    A link in the first post has died, can anyone share settings info mentioned below, please

    "Please try setting in Audio Hardware Setting in the app by following http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4014
    It is working really well with my vivo xplay6. It is bit-perfect playback and I really enjoyed it."
  5. artpiggo
  6. sorieno
    Take the information there with a grain of salt. AK4376 is a DAC not a codec. But the program somehow identifies it as a codec.
    deviceinfohw is a database but also an app, you can download it from play store or other sources.
    The app can identify if a smartphone have third party audio components integrated over the stock SOC,the data can be uploaded to the database.
    For example the A8 (A530F) in the database has cod3035x tfa98xx audio. But in a teardown there's also DBMD4. Both can be true, because cod3035x is exynos (stock), DBMD4 is third party. Teardowns are more accurate than databases, but if you mix the two, you'll get a better picture.
    If audio is missing, it's maybe a software bug or that smartphone does not have third party audio. Thats all.

    I dont have any problems with my G6 Plus, it works like a charm. I've bought mine in Europe in a store (4/64 version). I know that Motorola and Lenovo have factories in China, India and Brasil. Mine was made in China.I think those reviewers may have quality control/support issues.

    It's sad that Motorola does not publicate the audio specs for the G or X series. Only the Moto Z series specs can be found in wiki pages/teardowns/forums.
    Last edited: May 1, 2019
  7. janx
    Those chips for a budget phone is a real steal. Thanks for the info!

    Btw, concerning the 16th, it uses the Qualcomm Aqstic D/A, just FYI
  8. Nailzs
    If the phone and Bluetooth earphones have APT-X it'll make a difference and the LG G6 and G7 both have that codec. Both have Hi-Fi quad DAC and DTS-X Surround. The LG G6 has been on sale for under $200 here in the states.
  9. cannondt
    Its more than 350 bucks out here :frowning2:
  10. artpiggo
    Most.phone have apt x codec already.

    LDAC and HWA do make difference though.
  11. DaniRojo
    I'm unable to use that page properly, would you tell me if there is any info about the Moto G7/G7 Plus? Thanks in advance.
  12. cannondt
    That page is a little finnicky with the search as the Motorola brand names all have brackets around the number eg g(6).

    There is only on g(7) and that is Moto G7 Power and it has tfa98xx as its audio.
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  13. sorieno
    Good news. The G7 Plus is there, but its tricky to find, because you have to search for the codename(XT1965):http://www.deviceinfohw.ru/devices/item.php?item=35007. Its equipped with madera driver and 2x cs35l41 smart amp for the stereo speakers.
    There's still no info about the standard G7(XT1962), but if you look at the G6 lineup, the standard G6 has arizona and cs35l35.
    Last edited: May 4, 2019
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  14. cannondt
    My bad, @sorieno has sharper eyes :D

    Finally I pulled the trigger on the G6 plus. Anyway I can confirm the presence of those audio components once I get it in my hand? I only have a 10 days replacement guarantee!
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  15. AlisGelida
    Anyone here tried out Vivo X27 Pro with AK4377A? Any difference comparing to NEX S (CS43199 & SMM66322)?

    I'm so much on hype for those wide-angle and 48MP sensors :L3000:
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