[ArcticPhones]

Ok, so normally I'd just search the form for one of the numerous threads
for "Best mids or Best vocal headphones" and I'd get a bagillion posts,
but there's a problem.
 
The problem is that the headphones recommended are too good. By this
I mean their probably over $200 and anyone buying them isn't going to be
careless with them and break them.
(Unless of course their beats and people subconsciously break them because of how horrible they sound)
(Seriously hundreds of broken beats on ebay)

I however want them to be broken because I need their drives for a project
but of course I don't want to spend a lot of money buying new/used working
headphones only to break them to get at their drivers.

With that being said the headphones I'm thinking of need to still be very
good and producing mids, but cheap enough and common enough (or maybe old enough)
that a broken pair of them should appear on eBay at some point.

Thanks,
AP

 

[Headzone]

Beyerdynamic DT100 from ebay, can be found for real cheap, analytical and clear mids. Otherwise sounds bit like cheap radio, there's no bass.

 

[ArcticPhones]

Well while the DT100s are no doubt good for mids they are still expensive
and in general anyone buying Beyerdynamic isn't going to break them...
though I did find a pair of DT 770 80s for $38

But anyway need something more common.
 

 

[AzraelDarkangel]

I've heard that some older AKG models are spectacular for vocals/mids but don't recall the model numbers, something like 240DF, K500/501 etc. Good condition ones are in demand but you might look for broken ones. Look for broken Shure SRH840 and SRH940. Maybe Sennheiser hd598? Beyer DT770/880? Etc.

 

[ArcticPhones]

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I've heard that some older AKG models are spectacular for vocals/mids but don't recall the model numbers, something like 240DF, K500/501 etc. Good condition ones are in demand but you might look for broken ones. Look for broken Shure SRH840 and SRH940. Maybe Sennheiser hd598? Beyer DT770/880? Etc.

 


Well I'll keep an eye out for those, though they are rather specific/expensive so I doubt I'll really be finding
broken pair for a good deal.

More important than price though they have to be common, so that there might be a better chance of finding them broken.
An example would be like Klipsch Image ONEs, Sennheisser HD555s, Boss, maybe audio-technica ext; brands like
Shure, AKG, and the higher end Sennheiser/Beyer headphones while good are going to be to hard to find broken.

Also these headphones really only have to be at reproducing mid range sounds like Headzone's suggestion for the
DT100s, all other tonal qualities for the headphones can be disregarded.

 

[vid]

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I've heard that some older AKG models are spectacular for vocals/mids but don't recall the model numbers, something like 240DF

 
The AKG K 241 have good mids and were about $30-40 used last time I checked. The K 240 DF have slightly less good mids and cost two or three times that, so I'd go for the 241 in this case. They were common enough to find just about once a week.

 

[Headzone]

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Well while the DT100s are no doubt good for mids they are still expensive
and in general anyone buying Beyerdynamic isn't going to break them...
though I did find a pair of DT 770 80s for $38

But anyway need something more common.
 

I bought mine from a bidding site for 20$ ! The new ones are expensive, but they've been in production for over 20 years, so the vintage models can be had for cheap?
 
 

Spoiler: Ebay%20links%20for%20DT100

 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/BEYERDYNAMIC-DT-100-200-Ohm-DT-100-Studio-Kopfhorer-Headphones-schwarz-/300831263081?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item460af0c969#ht_500wt_1361
 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Beyerdynamic-DT-100-400-Ohm-Studio-Kopfhorer-Tuning-Ohrpolster-von-DT-150-DT100-/261140114877?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item3ccd29edbd#ht_799wt_1344
 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/BEYER-BEYERDYNAMIC-DT-100-classic-STUDIO-headphones-400-ohms-VERSION-/271117464148?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item3f1fdc3254#ht_500wt_1361
 
 

 
 

Spoiler: Also%20worth%20looking%20ebay.at%20for%20vintage%20AKG's.

 
http://www.ebay.at/itm/AKG-K120-UM-1970-NEU-KOPFHORER-HEADPHONES-VINTAGE-RETRO-K-120-DIN-MADE-AUSTRIA-/200863812996?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item2ec46a8d84#ht_1952wt_1139
 
http://www.ebay.at/itm/AKG-K135-K-135-Kopfhorer-Dynamik-Systems-Spitzenmodellgruppe-Vintage-/230895084737?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item35c26b64c1#ht_3641wt_1344
 

I didn't research how those perform, though.

 

[Fuzziekiwi]

Koss ProDj100/TBSE.
 
You can find at Tuesday Morning for $50 I believe.

 

[Armaegis]

If you're just harvesting the drivers, it shouldn't matter all too much which headphones as long as they're of a decent brand. 

 

[ArcticPhones]

Quote:

I bought mine from a bidding site for 20$ ! The new ones are expensive, but they've been in production for over 20 years, so the vintage models can be had for cheap?
 
 

Spoiler: Ebay%20links%20for%20DT100

 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/BEYERDYNAMIC-DT-100-200-Ohm-DT-100-Studio-Kopfhorer-Headphones-schwarz-/300831263081?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item460af0c969#ht_500wt_1361
 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Beyerdynamic-DT-100-400-Ohm-Studio-Kopfhorer-Tuning-Ohrpolster-von-DT-150-DT100-/261140114877?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item3ccd29edbd#ht_799wt_1344
 
http://www.ebay.de/itm/BEYER-BEYERDYNAMIC-DT-100-classic-STUDIO-headphones-400-ohms-VERSION-/271117464148?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item3f1fdc3254#ht_500wt_1361
 
 

 
 

Spoiler: Also%20worth%20looking%20ebay.at%20for%20vintage%20AKG's.

 
http://www.ebay.at/itm/AKG-K120-UM-1970-NEU-KOPFHORER-HEADPHONES-VINTAGE-RETRO-K-120-DIN-MADE-AUSTRIA-/200863812996?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item2ec46a8d84#ht_1952wt_1139
 
http://www.ebay.at/itm/AKG-K135-K-135-Kopfhorer-Dynamik-Systems-Spitzenmodellgruppe-Vintage-/230895084737?pt=Kopfh%C3%B6rer&hash=item35c26b64c1#ht_3641wt_1344
 

I didn't research how those perform, though

Thank you for all the detailed links, but I'm not sure if I can order from (German?) eBay.

 

[ArcticPhones]

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Koss ProDj100/TBSE.
 
You can find at Tuesday Morning for $50 I believe.

 
Do those have good mids? and also $50 is more than I want to spend on drivers unless they're from a really
expensive broken brand.
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If you're just harvesting the drivers, it shouldn't matter all too much which headphones as long as they're of a decent brand. 

Not really while some of a headphone's quality is in it's physical design most of it is in it's driver quality.

 

[Headzone]

What about brand new Koss KSC75's? They are ~10$ in amazon right? Not sure if they're perfect for vocals though, just pointed out a cheap alternative. 

 

[ArcticPhones]

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What about brand new Koss KSC75's? They are ~10$ in amazon right? Not sure if they're perfect for vocals though, just pointed out a cheap alternative. 

Ya they are cheap, but they're new, I can get something much better broken for the same price : /

What I'm looking for is the mids equivalent of this
I was looking for a good bass driver so I was looking looking looking,
figured why not try beats studios they suck but the bass is pretty good.
Got a broken pair but they were fake and I returned them.
When I went to look again I had amazing luck and found a broken pair of
DT 770 80 omh and sniped them for $38 (last auction for broken 770 80ohms went for $95)

So I'm looking for that equivalent common enough that they're findable, but uncommon enough
that they're actually good and they aren't going to sell for much.

The DT 100s fit the bill I just can find them on English eBay so I'm trying to get as many suggestions
as I can so that I have a better chance of finding one of those pairs broken.

 

[Armaegis]

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Not really while some of a headphone's quality is in it's physical design most of it is in it's driver quality.

 
Yes and No. The enclosure and damping materials has a very strong effect on the sound produced. You can't expect to just take "good" drivers and stick them into something else and expect it to turn out good sound without tuning of the enclosures, especially if you're working with multiple drivers across different ranges, and particularly if you're in a closed chamber.
 
That said, keep your eyes out for some Grados. People tend to mod them up and wind up breaking them somewhat often. 

 

[ArcticPhones]

Quote:

 
Yes and No. The enclosure and damping materials has a very strong effect on the sound produced. You can't expect to just take "good" drivers and stick them into something else and expect it to turn out good sound without tuning of the enclosures, especially if you're working with multiple drivers across different ranges, and particularly if you're in a closed chamber.
 
That said, keep your eyes out for some Grados. People tend to mod them up and wind up breaking them somewhat often. 

O ya of course, I'll keep an eye out for some Grados too.