Hey Tomcat -> Yeah really, the last phones in the world I want to buy right now, is another pair of Grado's. Not that they are bad, the SR-80's were my 1st "serious" headphone purchase, and have served me well for the last 4 years, especially so since I didn't have a hp amp until very recently(MG Head OTL). I'm sure the SR 225's do what the SR 80's do, but only better, but I'm more interested in Beyer, and some of the other brands, that I don't own. I just purchased a pair of Senn' HD 580's, and thus far am somewhat disappointed. To my ear's they have a dry, rather unforgiving sound. But I'm not writing them off yet,not until I get a Clou Blue, and replace the stock tube's, with some good NOS tubes.