beats by Dr Dre or Denon ah-d2000
Jul 21, 2009 at 3:11 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 51
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Hi Guys,

I am after a very good pair of headphones, since I can't afford a high-end sound system for now.....so I have decided to go for a good headphones to fulfil my needs.

I have been reading the posts for quite some time regarding headphones like Sennheiser HD-650's, beats by dr dre, denon ah-d2000.

From the reviews, it seems like hd650s don't offer a punch in the bass and I like thumpy bass, so have dismissed 650s. Now I am confused between beats by dr dre and denon d2000s....

I will be using the headphones with ipod and for watching movies on my laptop.

Can you ppl guide me or suggest which one should I go for or any other suggestions.

Thanks
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 3:50 PM Post #4 of 51
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From the reviews, it seems like hd650s don't offer a punch in the bass and I like thumpy bass, so have dismissed 650s. Now I am confused between beats by dr dre and denon d2000s....

I will be using the headphones with ipod and for watching movies on my laptop.


You can't just plug the D2000s into an ipod or a laptop and expect to hear anything like explained in the reviews. Without an amp they are flat and lifeless, the beautiful bass impact comes from amping. Think about this... you plug the cans into your ipod, what driving them? the ipod battery? IEMs and the likes are fine from the ipod because they don't take much to drive them, full size cans are another story.

Welcome to head-fi by the way, sorry about your wallet!
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Jul 21, 2009 at 4:36 PM Post #5 of 51
Thanks for the reply ppl....

I thought high impedance cans needed an amp to drive them, but the denon 2000s are 25ohm.....do I still need an amp???

@Graphicism: well wats the money in a pocket that cannot get u good sound man....
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and if I still need an amp, any good amps under £50.

Thanks
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 4:44 PM Post #7 of 51
Well I can tell you first hand the D2ks were flat and boring when I ran them through my PC sound card and my Zune. There one of those cans that let you hear your DAC/Amp ~ others that have said the same have sold them.

I just bought a Zero DAC/Amp which can be had for under $125 in the for sale section of this site, it's a little over your budget but well worth it. Unless your dead set on the Denons look for something cheaper, any pair of headphone you get will benefit from an amp even if they sound good without one.

EDT: Yes I think all headphone benefit from burn-in, around 200 hours should suffice. Of course that doesn't mean you can't enjoy them out of the box, when your not using them run some pink noise through them for a couple weeks... it certainly can't harm them. Also when burning the sound level should be listening volume, IOW not too loud.
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 5:51 PM Post #8 of 51
I have been looking and searching for tooo long now. I think Denon's should be the best choice. I'll also go for that amp u mentioned.

My pocket will feel light-weight, but the sound will be heavy weight....
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I'll let you guys know how I felt once I have the stuff in and working.

Thanks
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 5:59 PM Post #9 of 51
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Originally Posted by Graphicism /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well I can tell you first hand the D2ks were flat and boring when I ran them through my PC sound card and my Zune. There one of those cans that let you hear your DAC/Amp ~ others that have said the same have sold them.

I just bought a Zero DAC/Amp which can be had for under $125 in the for sale section of this site, it's a little over your budget but well worth it. Unless your dead set on the Denons look for something cheaper, any pair of headphone you get will benefit from an amp even if they sound good without one.

EDT: Yes I think all headphone benefit from burn-in, around 200 hours should suffice. Of course that doesn't mean you can't enjoy them out of the box, when your not using them run some pink noise through them for a couple weeks... it certainly can't harm them. Also when burning the sound level should be listening volume, IOW not too loud.


I know I still need to invest in a dac and amp for maximum sound potential. But I also think it's laughable you would call the D2000 sound out of a soundcard flat and boring, with everything i've been though with them in the last two months with ONLY the soundcard I strongly beg to differ. I'm not saying they won't be explosive and more refined with the extra's; but they sound pretty damn good right now, in no way do they sound boring lol. I'm just saying it's not necessary to say they are "nothing" without an amp, which is certainly not true.
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 6:02 PM Post #10 of 51
Don't you have a really good sound card though? I think he is talking about a standard sound card.
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 6:03 PM Post #11 of 51
Denons out of a portable sound fine, with just a bit of a deficit in the bass (which is stellar when amped).
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 6:07 PM Post #13 of 51
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Don't you have a really good sound card though? I think he is talking about a standard sound card.


Ya the Xfi one is pretty good, I guess I didn't consider that. Does my SC amp more then onboard sound? I never tried it with my onboard. The volume (with a decent amount of bass EQ'd in) is usually loud ENOUGH but below what I would really want. Close though, I admit the low-end needs some tightening up.
 
Jul 21, 2009 at 6:10 PM Post #14 of 51
try it with your on board then, I would be interested to know as I will be receiving my D2000's on Thursday.
 
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