Quote: Originally Posted by Hopstretch So have you given up shilling semi-professionally for Theta to shill semi-professionally for OPPO now? Why you feel the need to spew your crap across every audio site on the Internet is beyond me. Very sorry to see you've finally made it here. How is it "crap" it is proof that there is a lot of snake oil and rebadging going on in high end audio. Does the truth hurt you that much? Quote: Originally Posted by sahwnfras In the one post by Charles Hanson, he has given more proof about how they have changed that product than you have about what they havnt changed. I dont see how you can say this is snake oil when they have admitted they changed pretty much the whole circuity of the unit. This is a high end product you pay alot for a little, get used to it. It does not mean that it is snake oil though, it may be snake oil to you but you are an... How is charles's subjective opinion proof? All they did was change the power supply and took out the 7.1 outputs of the oppo and put in their 2ch audio board. So in what they did was reduce the features of the oppo and changed the power supply, snake oil. Quote: Originally Posted by Shike The only way to judge whether it's snake oil or not is see if the changes have made any actual improvements in empirical performance. Personally I don't see some of their changes making that large of an impact in all honestly. Just because some of them are popular with DIY community doesn't make the changes worthwhile either. Regardless, it's not a simple rebadge. Now if we were to argue the modifications made aren't worthwhile that would be another conversation entirely. Actual improvements would require objective data and ayre and its users are no interested in that. Ok so lets go with the ayre not being a 100% rebadge of the oppo since they change out the power supply section and the analog section. Can anyone provide objective data that these "changes" are going to have a possitive impact?