[jackpersonne]

Zenith PMx2 V2 for sale
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/for-sale-audio-zenith-pmx2-v2.924583/

I have a PM1, a PM2x. Il like the PM1, but the PM2x is quite something. I just made an error, I should have bought 2. Alex did a tremendous job, that's just my humble opinion.

 

[Raketen]

I have a PM1, a PM2x. Il like the PM1, but the PM2x is quite something. I just made an error, I should have bought 2. Alex did a tremendous job, that's just my humble opinion.

Now that they own the Oppo driver tech, would be cool if Massdrop considered collaborating with Audio Zenith to revive PMx2.

 

[jackpersonne]

Now that they own the Oppo driver tech, would be cool if Massdrop considered collaborating with Audio Zenith to revive PMx2.

I can only agree with you 100%. I wonder if Alex couldn't design some of the best close cans transfigurating the PM3.

 

[gepardcv]

Now that [Massdrop] owns the Oppo driver tech

Wait, what? When and how did this happen?

 

[Raketen]

Wait, what? When and how did this happen?

Possibly they are just licensing it. but I think it was late last year they announced the Drop/THX Panda headphones - I believe based on PM3 drivers, accepting analog input or bluetooth with a THX amp circuit. There were some very early impressions of the prototypes but I think they are just now starting to ship pre-ordered units.

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/drop-thx-panda-announcement.921062/

 

[jackpersonne]

I also heard about that. Anyway, that wouldn't allow to revive PM2x. Massdrop might have bought the PM3 driver driver tech but what about the skills ? I remember when the PM3 was aroud $350-400 retail in Europe. It might not be the best closed cans, but the ration price/quality was very hard to match.

 

[m-i-c-k-e-y]

I want a PMx3!

 

[jackpersonne]

I want a PMx3!

So do I .

 

[m-i-c-k-e-y]

My PMx2s are getting signs of battered use (usually cosmetics).

Is Alex still selling these? Maybe I'll ask...

However, are there any current offerings that rivals these especially where it excells (ie Timbre, Neutrality and Freq. Response smoothness)?

 

[Mike C]

My PMx2s are getting signs of battered use (usually cosmetics).



However, are there any current offerings that rivals these especially where it excells (ie Timbre, Neutrality and Freq. Response smoothness)?

Yes, definitely, but expensive. Meze Empyrean are very close and IMO somewhat better. Both are lovely sounding, highly enjoyable.

Here's my view of the differences, it's an opinion, other views may differ somewhat.
Empyrean has slightly more detail, a touch more transparency.
PMx2 has a slightly fuller midrange.
Empyrean has slightly more bass, and it's well defined bass. Don't take this wrong, I don't mean PMX2 isn't well defined.
I'd say these differences are small, but there. Which is more correct? Hard to say; the PMx2 is superb for vocals, with great naturalness, tone, and perhaps a touch of warmth; the Empyrean might be a touch more neutral, and with the fine transparency (without harshness!) gives superb realism. Both superb but with very slightly different flavours; I now prefer the Empyrean.
Both are very comfortable, the PMx2 slightly more so.
Though figures for sensitivity are similar and people say the Empyrean is easy to drive, I find the Empyrean a bit less sensitive, and it benefits from some power to get the best out of them.
Obviously all phones benefit from a good source and amp, but this seems particularly true of the Empyrean. They love a good valve amp, but I've had to develop my DIY valve amp to get really good results.
With a superb Lector R2R/valve dac and a decent valve amp, the Empyrean gives plenty of fine, spine-tingly music; close to musical heaven.

Timbre, neutrality, response smoothness - yes, Empyrean does all these exceptionally well, but add 'enjoyment' to the list.
Plenty of info on the thread here.

 

[m-i-c-k-e-y]

Thank you Meze Empyrean along w/ D8000 Pro are among in my shortlist.

Have an Audiiobyte Hydra.Vox as DAC and Pathos Inpol Ear as amp.

 

[Mike C]

Thank you Meze Empyrean along w/ D8000 Pro are among in my shortlist.

Have an Audiiobyte Hydra.Vox as DAC and Pathos Inpol Ear as amp.

Perfect! Nice gear, some valves and good power - that'll make the Empyean *sing*.
Good luck.

 

[jackpersonne]

I wouldn't trade my PMx2 for two Meze Empyrean. I mean I had a crush on the PMx2 even if the Meze Empyrean is really great. This is a tribute to Alex

 

[Mike C]

I wouldn't trade my PMx2 for two Meze Empyrean.

Well I didn't trade my PMx2 and will keep them as they are very good.
But ultimately I prefer the Empyrean as explained above.

That is a very strong opinion; can you expand on what you dislike about the sound of the Empyrean?

 

[jackpersonne]

Well I didn't trade my PMx2 and will keep them as they are very good.
But ultimately I prefer the Empyrean as explained above.

That is a very strong opinion; can you expand on what you dislike about the sound of the Empyrean?

I dislike nothing about the Empyrean. I might even buy one if I had enough money (price in France is 2999 €, about UDS 3530).

It is just that I had "un coup de coeur" a crush on the PMx2.

I keep some headphones because they mattered in my life : I'd like to find an AKG240 from the beginning of the 80's, best part of my life, I keep a ruined HD-560 Ovation because it's the first headphone I heard when I came out of coma, a PM3 that was my buddy during an over 2 years functionnal rehabilitation.

But you're right, I should have mentionned that my answer was kind of a tribute to Alex.

I made an error and can't edit my post. My most sincere apologises and PMx2 Empyrean