[JaMo]

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[VintageFlanker]

I'm looking for a slightly neutral DAC/amp to pair with my K712 pros.

Here, in France, R2R 11 is 40€ cheaper than NFB 11.28 (369€ vs 409€, inc taxes). The opposite on Agd website where 11.28 is 20$ less!

I can't make my choice... The seller says 11.28 will be a better option for my K712. But, on the other hand, I'm really tempted by R2R 11 for try something different than usual Sabre chip!

Is the R2R 11 is neutral/uncoloured enough for a neutral combo with my K712?

Anyone compared these to the idsd Black Label?

 

[conquerator2]

I'm looking for a slightly neutral DAC/amp to pair with my K712 pros.

Here, in France, R2R 11 is 40€ cheaper than NFB 11.28 (369€ vs 409€, inc taxes). The opposite on Agd website where 11.28 is 20$ less!

I can't make my choice... The seller says 11.28 will be a better option for my K712. But, on the other hand, I'm really tempted by R2R 11 for try something different than usual Sabre chip!

Is the R2R 11 is neutral/uncoloured enough for a neutral combo with my K712?

Anyone compared these to the idsd Black Label?

Yes, just buy the R2R11

 

[VintageFlanker]

While the positioning is quite similar, the components used on the amp section are different from R2R to NFB. Specs of the headphone amp are similar. Any idea why?

 

[FredA]

While the positioning is quite similar, the components used on the amp section are different from R2R to NFB. Specs of the headphone amp are similar. Any idea why?

Looks like a different transistor was chosen, otherwise, same circuit. Probably equivalent.

 

[dw1narso]

R2R 11 use SMT transistor vs 11.28 use hole through components.. from the electrical perspective, SMT application tend to be better than hole through components... (Better RFI resistance, lower impedance (though in order of micro ohms)...)

 

[robm321]

I think i'm sold with the R2R11 or NFB11.28.. Will contact Kingwa. Thanks guys!

Yeah, this is making me very interested also.

 

[Lohb]

Just discovered this one on AGD site.

Looking peerless at this price-point.

 

[Lohb]

I'm looking for a slightly neutral DAC/amp to pair with my K712 pros.

Here, in France, R2R 11 is 40€ cheaper than NFB 11.28 (369€ vs 409€, inc taxes). The opposite on Agd website where 11.28 is 20$ less!

I can't make my choice... The seller says 11.28 will be a better option for my K712. But, on the other hand, I'm really tempted by R2R 11 for try something different than usual Sabre chip!

Is the R2R 11 is neutral/uncoloured enough for a neutral combo with my K712?

Anyone compared these to the idsd Black Label?

Straight from the r2r summary lower down on its AGD page...

" Option to set Neutral or Warm sound (Jumper setting) according to personal taste."

 

[VintageFlanker]

Straight from the r2r summary lower down on its AGD page...

" Option to set Neutral or Warm sound (Jumper setting) according to personal taste."

I'm testing the R2R 11 at this very moment (went set to neutral).

The option "neutral or warmer" by switching jumpers exists for a long while even with their warmer sources. That doesn't mean the sound will be neutral, just less warm in this case. Or warmer in the case of NFB 11.28, but not as warm as their other solutions using PCM1794.

By the way, the R2R is very good, but it stills colored, some kind of tube/analogue signature but faster. The pops when switching songs or open an app on Windows bothers me, thought.

 

[conquerator2]

R2R should feel colored by design imo. I find it pretty neutral. In that sense rather, it's the modern DS that are etched while R2R designs remain faithful. IMO. YMMV

 

[unclebrudy]

I'm testing the R2R 11 at this very moment (went set to neutral).

The option "neutral or warmer" by switching jumpers exists for a long while even with their warmer sources. That doesn't mean the sound will be neutral, just less warm in this case. Or warmer in the case of NFB 11.28, but not as warm as their other solutions using PCM1794.

By the way, the R2R is very good, but it stills colored, some kind of tube/analogue signature but faster. The pops when switching songs or open an app on Windows bothers me, thought.

Hey bud. I'm seriously considering the R2R-11 and wanted to pick your brain a bit about these pops.

I get them on my NFB-11, but only while it's warming up. I'd say give or take an hour and it's only when I stop listening to music for a while (figure, go make a sandwich or something) that the pops come back, and usually only on the start of the first song. Have your tried to test for pops across optical/coax/USB?

Thanks in advanced.

 

[conquerator2]

No pops through coax / optical here. Only from USB when changing sample rates

 

[unclebrudy]

No pops through coax / optical here. Only from USB when changing sample rates

Awesome! One step closer to paying. I've had the Audio-GD email sitting in my inbox for a few hours and needed a little push. Thank you for your time and reply!

 

[conquerator2]

Awesome! One step closer to paying. I've had the Audio-GD email sitting in my inbox for a few hours and needed a little push. Thank you for your time and reply!

Haha, you're welcome. Though I might reiterate here; I do get occasional pops through USB but I pinned it to my slower drive. It definitely stabilized over time if it was doe to the Anamero, but coaxial / optical remained pop free regardless. And regardless indeed, you would not regret buying this unit. It is a steal IMO.