Audio-Gd Master 7 - Discrete Fully Balanced DAC (PCM1704)
Jul 30, 2015 at 11:47 PM Post #2,956 of 4,448
win os sound poor,do not use with m7.
 
Jul 31, 2015 at 1:45 AM Post #2,957 of 4,448
  win os sound poor,do not use with m7.

 
Windows 7 and older has bad SQ.
Windows 8 / 8.1 sounds much better.
Windows 10 I didn't compare
Windows Server 2012 (R2) sounds sublime
 
Jul 31, 2015 at 6:52 AM Post #2,958 of 4,448
2012 R2. no doubt about it.
 
I am using GUI mode.
 
pls try audiophile optimizer.
 
Jul 31, 2015 at 10:33 AM Post #2,959 of 4,448
   
Windows 7 and older has bad SQ.
Windows 8 / 8.1 sounds much better.
Windows 10 I didn't compare
Windows Server 2012 (R2) sounds sublime


Does WIndows 10 and Windows 2012 Server have the same rich Sound Mapper sampling rate/ bit depth options as Windows 8.1?    Way more options than Windows 7.  I use the Sound Mapper for mix down at times and want to match sampling rate/ bit depth as the original files.  Otherwise Sound Mapper resamples everything to whatever you select under Playback device.  
 
Jul 31, 2015 at 10:45 AM Post #2,960 of 4,448
  2012 R2. no doubt about it.
 
I am using GUI mode.
 
pls try audiophile optimizer.

 
I have AO and JPlay in DualPC setup. 700Hz - 0.01s Ultrastream.
Planning to test with Fidelizer this weekend.
 
Jul 31, 2015 at 11:04 AM Post #2,961 of 4,448
 
Does WIndows 10 and Windows 2012 Server have the same rich Sound Mapper sampling rate/ bit depth options as Windows 8.1?    Way more options than Windows 7.  I use the Sound Mapper for mix down at times and want to match sampling rate/ bit depth as the original files.  Otherwise Sound Mapper resamples everything to whatever you select under Playback device.  

 
Hi DACLadder,
 
I dont use the Windows Sound Mapper, it's not used by JPlay / AO
JRiver, which I use, can be set at all frequencies you want, so it will not be modified when playing.
 
Server 2012 seems to have same options as Windows 8.
Windows 10 seems different to me, but I am not sure, have laptop only and maybe it's because of standard drivers installed,
 
Jul 31, 2015 at 6:57 PM Post #2,962 of 4,448
   
I have AO and JPlay in DualPC setup. 700Hz - 0.01s Ultrastream.
Planning to test with Fidelizer this weekend.

it will add on to it. whether good or bad depends, but for me, i prefer with fidelizer on.
 
Aug 1, 2015 at 3:48 AM Post #2,963 of 4,448
 
Does WIndows 10 and Windows 2012 Server have the same rich Sound Mapper sampling rate/ bit depth options as Windows 8.1?    Way more options than Windows 7.  I use the Sound Mapper for mix down at times and want to match sampling rate/ bit depth as the original files.  Otherwise Sound Mapper resamples everything to whatever you select under Playback device.  

 

I don’t know exactly what Windows Sound Mapper is, but in the “Sound Card Properties” you have two small boxes "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" and “Give exclusive mode applications priority”. If you check them out, no up or down mix will occur for programs that you can select output from like Jriver, JPlay, Foobar 2000, Tidal, etc. Also for other steaming music cites like YouTube you can go thru Jriver, JPlay and skip the Windows mixer. 

 
Aug 1, 2015 at 10:00 AM Post #2,964 of 4,448
   
I don’t know exactly what Windows Sound Mapper is, but in the “Sound Card Properties” you have two small boxes "Allow applications to take exclusive control of this device" and “Give exclusive mode applications priority”. If you check them out, no up or down mix will occur for programs that you can select output from like Jriver, JPlay, Foobar 2000, Tidal, etc. Also for other steaming music cites like YouTube you can go thru Jriver, JPlay and skip the Windows mixer. 

Sound Mapper is just an old term for WIndows audio.   With JRiver or Foobar I used WASAPI and bypasses Windows audio so understand the check boxes.  It is just when using Sound Forge tools that it uses Windows audio and subject to whatever sampling rates/ bit depth you select under playback devices.   So I have to match sampling rate/ bit depth of the files I am using.in Sound Forge otherwise Windows will resample to whatever is selected.  Windows 7 had a more limited selection of sampling rates/ bit depth and couldn't always match to native files I was editing.
 
Aug 2, 2015 at 10:10 PM Post #2,966 of 4,448
   
Windows 7 and older has bad SQ.
Windows 8 / 8.1 sounds much better.
Windows 10 I didn't compare
Windows Server 2012 (R2) sounds sublime


I just upgraded to Windows 10 from using Windows 8.1
One thing I noticed was flash is borked with Google Play, so I was planning on downgrading back to 8.1
 
Based on this, I'm going to try Server 2012.
Windows Direct Sound quality is all that matters to me. I have a massive flac collection, but 90% of my listening is with Google Play. Windows SQ becomes important with this.
Convenience over form for me personally.
 
Aug 3, 2015 at 4:39 AM Post #2,967 of 4,448
I would like to know a thing : is the 2015 version of the M7 sound the same than the older version ?
 
Aug 3, 2015 at 4:28 PM Post #2,969 of 4,448
So, the rest of the electronic have known no modification ?
 
Aug 3, 2015 at 10:16 PM Post #2,970 of 4,448
   
Windows 7 and older has bad SQ.
Windows 8 / 8.1 sounds much better.
Windows 10 I didn't compare
Windows Server 2012 (R2) sounds sublime


Server 2012 r2 (12 services active)3.3v rail separate linear powered,usb signal direct from pci slot,............
sound extreme detailed,organic,deep, but not wide,no 3d feeling,middle section missing. Listen one hour,im bored.
 

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