I got my Sines today. They are really good. Still really fun and fast for EDM, but much better for other genres than my specific "fun" cans. I think my cipher cable is somehow messed up though. At first I noticed mine didnt sound exactly like the one I auditioned at the apple store a couple weeks ago. It sounds really clear with the cipher, but it hiccups and cant process dense material at all. It stutters. Never heard a headphone do this. Like when processing dense EDM, with lots of sounds and vocals in the same timeframe, the vocals will cut out. Then I plugged it into my fiio A5 with the standard chord. Although less clear, it doesnt stutter and skip out at all. Bass comes alive from the Fiio too. Keepers for sure. Just gonna warranty the cipher cable, unless is works itself out.