Audeze LCD-2C Classic - Impressions Thread
Feb 27, 2018 at 9:00 PM Post #2,386 of 7,334
LCD2C vs Hifiman HE400i

Audeze is more natural, sound bigger, cleaner, more revealing and yet less fatiguing at higher volume and the most importantly, audeze have much much much better low frequencies. so it might lead someone to think, that these are on the same level. aint the same ****in ballpark. it aint the same league. it aint the same ****in sport.

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Feb 28, 2018 at 2:30 AM Post #2,387 of 7,334
By breaking the seal I mean just pulling them away from my head, nothing else. It's the equivalent of playing music through them while laying on my desk so I don't know how I would overdrive anything that way...
I tried this and they sounded terrible! Each to his own I guess
 
Feb 28, 2018 at 2:41 AM Post #2,388 of 7,334
I've found the bass to be good out of the box with more spacious and immaculately produced music, but with busier music it doesn't work well.

If there is a real variance in our headphones, not just a perceived/subjective difference, do you think it's possible it has to do with the amount of damping material? Since it appears that depressurizing them is what's changing the sound, do you think too much damping on the back end is preventing some pairs from "breathing" properly?

I'd really like to just open them up but I don't have a screwdriver... That'll have to wait until the weekend.

Well goodbye the warranty..... How are you driving them? They respond well to a good amp with decent power.
 
Feb 28, 2018 at 3:37 AM Post #2,389 of 7,334
Just received these. Lighter than expected and build quality better than expected ; pleasant surprises.
 

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Feb 28, 2018 at 6:35 AM Post #2,392 of 7,334
LCD2C vs Hifiman HE400i

Audeze is more natural, sound bigger, cleaner, more revealing and yet less fatiguing at higher volume and the most importantly, audeze have much much much better low frequencies. Its not neutral or analytical. No. But you dont want neutral and analytical for music or movies. I used to have decent 5.1 system and this beats my former subwoofer. Thats how good low frequencies on these are.
Both headphones are very well build. Both are very comfortable and can be easily worn all day long. As source goes, im driving them from Audeze Deckard amp/dac - they both dont need usually much more than 10´o clock volume on low gain (he400i needs slightly more to my surprise). There are some other minor differences, like quality of cable, packaging, premium feeling, but thats not important really and you can read it somewhere else. I know it is not exactly fair to compare those, because of price difference. I bought he400i in discount for 500USD incl. tax and audeze cost me 800USD (europe, incl. tax, with christmas discount ) but in some parts of the world on some day these two might be quite close to each other as pricing goes and he400i have very good reputation and kind of aura of awesome product performing way above its price, so it might lead someone to think, that these are on the same level. aint the same ****in ballpark. it aint the same league. it aint the same ****in sport.

Nice to read this as im upgrading from 400i's. I loved em but they lacked so much bass for my taste.
 
Feb 28, 2018 at 6:57 AM Post #2,393 of 7,334
Need some advice..

I've been loving reading the reviews of the LCD-2Cs, and had been hoping for a listen at Bristol last weekend, unfortunately family illness kept me away.

So, if you had the choice between new LCD-2C at roughly £600, or refurbished LCD-X with Fazor (with a 3yr warranty) being sold by scan at £999.. what would tempt you?

The full price new LCD-X (£1500?) is out of reach for me, but I could probably stretch to the refurbs.. should I just stick to the 2Cs though?!

I have HD650s and Meze 99Cs already, (and will keep them). Source is mostly Naim streamer / Rega turntable / Tidal HiFi, Audiolab M-Dac+ feeding a balanced pair of HA200 Class A monoblock headphone amps, so hopefully sufficient power for the Audezes..




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Feb 28, 2018 at 11:10 AM Post #2,394 of 7,334
Feb 28, 2018 at 3:19 PM Post #2,395 of 7,334
Is the treble as dry and grainy as innerfidelity claims?
 
Feb 28, 2018 at 3:46 PM Post #2,396 of 7,334
Is the treble as dry and grainy as innerfidelity claims?

I wouldn't call it "grainy", but there is definitely a "grain" to the treble and there's a bit of dryness. I personally love this as it gives electric guitars some really good bite and texture. Unlike Tyll, I hated the Audeze Reveal plugin because it got rid of that grain.
 
Feb 28, 2018 at 4:31 PM Post #2,397 of 7,334
I wouldn't call it "grainy", but there is definitely a "grain" to the treble and there's a bit of dryness. I personally love this as it gives electric guitars some really good bite and texture. Unlike Tyll, I hated the Audeze Reveal plugin because it got rid of that grain.
Thank you. I suppose grain could be interpreted as energy in the treble, as opposed to an overly smooth, polite top end?
 
Feb 28, 2018 at 5:07 PM Post #2,398 of 7,334
I haven't made up my mind on the Reveal plug-in yet vs. the stock, but regardless, these have served me wonderfully since I got them back in December. Comfort is not a concern with these. Overall, I'd definitely recommend them.
 
Feb 28, 2018 at 6:37 PM Post #2,399 of 7,334
Thank you. I suppose grain could be interpreted as energy in the treble, as opposed to an overly smooth, polite top end?

I...don't know. These are pretty dark headphones so I don't know if I could say there is energy in the treble...it's just grain...it's say it's not smooth AND polite. If that makes sense.

I can't describe it other than a dry/grain sound that is only really (to me) apparent on electric guitars and pop music
 
Mar 1, 2018 at 1:36 AM Post #2,400 of 7,334
Some first impressions of LCD2C after a few hours of listening. These are the most musical headphones i ve ever heard. Rich, smooth, and thick tones. I didn’t know what people meant by intimate soundstage before listening to them but these focus everything directly into your head feels like - its like music getting churned in your brain, but everything still maintains surprising level of separation and imaging. They are also faaast, if listening to metal, the individual bass notes and drum hits are virtually demonstrated to you.
Can’t help feel they are the polar opposite of HD800 in nearly everyway.
 
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