I have considered an outboard DAC/AMP for my iOS devices but honestly can't be bothered with all the hassle. Thus the appeal of the EL-8 plus I'd never heard planars before and was eager to hear some. To be honest, listening to music through my iPhone and iPad has become truly enjoyable again with the EL-8. I never really felt that way with the Edition 8 because I've never felt satisfied with the DACs on iOS devices. Why don't you just buy and audition them for the holidays? You have until January 8 to return them for a full refund. Only you will know if they are to your liking or not.