ATTICUS and EIKON, the new dynamic driver headphones from ZMF
Nov 12, 2016 at 11:48 PM Post #721 of 9,709
I have Omni pads and they didnt fit my ear and were uncomfortable if I shoved them in. I hope the Eikons fit my giant ass ears...

I haven't ordered my pair yet but wonder if I could replace the pair of Omni pads with say Cowhide because thats the only set of pads I use with my Omni.
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 12:25 AM Post #722 of 9,709
I have Omni pads and they didnt fit my ear and were uncomfortable if I shoved them in. I hope the Eikons fit my giant ass ears...


I haven't ordered my pair yet but wonder if I could replace the pair of Omni pads with say Cowhide because thats the only set of pads I use with my Omni.


That wouldn't be a problem! If anyone wants an alternate set of pads just leave a it at checkout, I'll also try to remember to add the options at checkout as well.

I can't speak to how they would sound on the Atticus or eikon though. Haven't tried the oval pads on them.
 
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Nov 13, 2016 at 12:26 AM Post #723 of 9,709
I have the Eikon pads, and can verify they are just slightly larger than the omni pads (total diameter). If the Omni fit, these should.


What headphone did you out the eikon pads on and how did they work?
 
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Nov 13, 2016 at 12:47 AM Post #724 of 9,709
What headphone did you out the eikon pads on and how did they work?
The E-MU Teak. They worked quite well! Best pads for them so far. The Eikon pads brought the drivers closer to the ear, similar to stock pads, and made it sound much more like stock as well. Best pads I've found for them yet. Brainwavz pads were bad. Tried 3 of those. Omni pads were the previous best. Shure 1540 weren't bad, not great. Etc...
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 4:37 AM Post #725 of 9,709
  I have arrived with my impressions so far. They're both in Cherry by the way.


Eikon

The very first thing that becomes very apparent when you put these headphones on is the fact that they're not the usual ZMF Headphone. They are supremely neutral. That is, nothing actually stands out in the frequency range (which will be a good thing for most people.) In fact, the only two things that seem to be emphasized is the tiny bit of darkness and the tiny bit of subbass emphasis. The best way to put it would be: "It presents music very, very well, and that's that."

The big, big thing about this headphone is the resolve and transients. It is incredibly ******* fast, incredibly ******* detailed, and incredibly ******* clear. Everything this headphone does is well textured (especially the bass.) Hell, I'd say the bass outdoes the Fostex biocellulose headphones in texture and detail. Maybe not impact, but that isn't something everyone wants in the first place (as everything gets sacrificed.)

I'm keeping this short, as I'm more wanting to get my impressions in order before I say much more. But, the big take away here is that Zach took a biocellulose driver, and made it neutral without losing any of the benefits. Because of that, we end having a headphone that makes the TH900 look like a mistake. Hell, even outdoes it in soundstage (though, I still wouldn't say the Eikon has a large soundstage.)

Atticus

Did you want the Omni, but obviously heard it being held back by the T50 driver? Did you wonder where the lower mids went? Well...guess what? They went into the Atticus. (Side-note, I am going into a bit more detail with this one becuase there is a weird lack of them going around.)

Seriously though, if you wanted a headphone with the same quality as the Eikon, but with the ZMF House sound, this is the headphone for you. While the transients are slower (as the decay is a bit more natural to my ear,) the Atticus is every bit as good as the Eikon (just different.) That includes the superb resolve.

The mids and bass are very much a focus of this headphone. The vocals sound amazing and acoustic guitars sound exemplary with this bad boy. The decay and texture in this region is a bit more obvious over the Eikon (as the decay is slightly slower and the mids are a bit elevated.) This includes the upper-mids.

The bass, on the other hand, actually reminds me more of the THX00 and the Fostex stuff than the Eikon does. The Atticus has a healthy amount (not too much) of midbass and subbass that oddly stays incredibly clear and textured (meaning it lacks a lot of distortion in that area.)

If you're a treblehead, you won't like this headphone. But, if you're not, the treble is very well done, and there's a surprising amount of air to it. That said, I would actually place the Eikon's treble a bit ahead of the Atticus. At the same time though, the treble is not meant to be the focus here...it does its job well and doesn't make me feel like it is lacking in anyway.

The only issue I have the Atticus is that the soundstage is incredibly wide and occasionally makes things sound distant. I have this issue more in games than actual music.

Now, I have to come clean with something...the Atticus I'm listening to is different from the rest. It actually has a slightly upgraded driver (The magnets are bigger/membrane material stiffer.) This removes the issue of muddiness that some people have heard in the bass of the Atticus. That, and it's the production driver (as in, this is what is going into the Atticus' being created.)


That all said...I'm preferring the Atticus overall at the moment. I may be in the minority, as I know most people here would love the neutrality of the Eikon.

 
What did you think of the Atticus with female vocals?  Probably half the music I listen too has female vocalists.  I also listen to a lot of metal, typically with complex passages.
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 5:07 AM Post #726 of 9,709
wow so the atticus has a wider soundstage than the eikon?
The Th900 has one  of the biggest sound stages of a closed headphone and if the Eikon is bigger and the Atticus even wider then that is some impressive staging. 
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 6:22 AM Post #728 of 9,709
That is interesting. According to ZMF website Eikon has "a wider and deeper stage"


Yeah that's a good observation, some of the copy on the site was written before the final driver was implemented, I'll adjust it today.
 
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Nov 13, 2016 at 6:29 AM Post #729 of 9,709
Yeah that's a good observation, some of the copy on the site was written before the final driver was implemented, I'll adjust it today.


Any other differences besides a cleaner mid bass and wider soundstage compared to impressions of the earlier pre-production design?
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 6:36 AM Post #730 of 9,709
Any other differences besides a cleaner mid bass and wider soundstage compared to impressions of the earlier pre-production design?


The tuning is pretty darn close, mainly the changes are a enlarged magnet, thickened the membrane and slightly opened the size of the ports in the back of the driver. It did bring the treble up a about 1-2db which I think accounts for the stage seeming larger. Aside from that it has lower distortion, a cleaner sound to the bass boost, and more punch and feel presentation wise.
 
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Nov 13, 2016 at 7:29 AM Post #732 of 9,709
The tuning is pretty darn close, mainly the changes are a enlarged magnet, thickened the membrane and slightly opened the size of the ports in the back of the driver. It did bring the treble up a about 1-2db which I think accounts for the stage seeming larger. Aside from that it has lower distortion, a cleaner sound to the bass boost, and more punch and feel presentation wise.


Great, thanks Zach!

Lower distortion is fantastic news. The overall sound of the Atticus appeals to me but I was worried that distortion levels might be really noticeable compared to the Eikons.
 
Nov 13, 2016 at 11:58 AM Post #733 of 9,709
Nov 13, 2016 at 2:02 PM Post #735 of 9,709
   
What did you think of the Atticus with female vocals?  Probably half the music I listen too has female vocalists.  I also listen to a lot of metal, typically with complex passages.

There's a very slight dip in the upper-mids, but I had to get a lot of test tracks to tell it was there. It's akin to the dip with the upper-mids dip in the HD800, albeit a tad less obvious than that.
 
  wow so the atticus has a wider soundstage than the eikon?
The Th900 has one  of the biggest sound stages of a closed headphone and if the Eikon is bigger and the Atticus even wider then that is some impressive staging. 
 

 
Yah, the soundstage is wider. I have both cherry sets, so the panduak may be slightly larger soundstages on both since the pore size is a lot bigger.
 

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