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Hello everybody! I'm currently undecided between the eikon and the elear-as a horn speakers lover, I'm searching for a big sound... Can somebody who has listened to both tell me something about this aspect?
Thanks a lot!
From impressions here and the Elear threads it seems the Eikon is the more spacious of the two with more sub-bass presence. The Elear should have slightly better dynamics and a bit more mid-bass. Probably the Atticus is closer to the Elear than the Eikon (if you lower the bass presence some dB). I have heard the Elear once but not the Eikon.
Actually the elear and the atticus are the similar ones, both have upper midbass and lower treble and pushed backed upper mids.
The ekions has flatter sound, more upper treble and subbass.
all due respect to your decision to want a big sound. I'm a believer that bigger sound is worth more $$$$ kind of person but at the same time I've found it is not always better nor in the top 3 of what makes a better headphone.
The ambient sound you get from horns is not really relative to how headphones produce sound.. Horns don't image precisely and in the world of head-fi, if it images like crap it is .
last night I went to Best Buy and listened to a pair of b&w p7 headphones and even though the sound was smallish, the headphone had a finesse in the microdynamics and detail that when things got really dynamic, my brain perceived it as being a roomier sounding headphone than it was. Great depth from such a small headphone and while to genre specific to be my only headphone, my wife is definitely getting one. another thing that coincides with this is that b&w also has a bigger brother the p9. from what I've read, it's essentially a bigger sounding p7 and a little bit of bass boost. To me the p7 is def worth the $350 asking price. The p9 however is $900. Too big of a jump up in money for bigger sound.
Audeze full size headphones have a big rich full bodied sound that my brain always says " now this worth more $" However mr speakers ether c while very good is a headphone that I have heard that meets all the criteria of being a technically very capable headphone but I won't buy it because for some reason my brain says "not enough sound for the $"
Essentially what I'm saying is that of the two, one might sound more roomy but that doesn't necessarily mean your brain will accept it as being the better headphone
Does the Atticus and Eikon match well with Ragnarok? Cos 300 ohm headphones are usually quite picky about amps. Thanks
I would still like to know what portable headphone amps are neutral to use with my QP1R and the two new ZMF headphones.
Hopefully, because that's what I'll be using my Eikon with.
Given the time and effort that Schiit put into the Ragnarok. I would hope so! At 2 Head-fi meetups I have heard the Ragnarok on my Audeze LCD 2s and my HD-600 and they sounded amazing! I heard the Zach's Omni on his Decware unit and at that time he had a combo Violecltric AMP/DAC which sounded amazing too. While neither of these headphones are Planar like his Omni, I can not see a reason why you should have any problem as Schiit as stated this is their endgame amp. The only thing I can think of is maybe it match better with a Totl Tube Amp? That would require more experienced people than I that have heard them with both. I am going to bet Zach has or you can just PM him. It is more than a worthy question!
It's going to be killer, I've never heard anything sound bad on a RAG. It's neutral with a VERY slight touch of liquidity/girth IMHO. Very nice sound. While I haven't heard the ZMF stuff on the RAG, it'll sound great. A OTL is definitely not necessary for the ZMF's, they will just give a different flavor with their higher ohm output and higher voltage swing at higher ohms (in some cases.)
Agreed with @KimbaWLion!!!
...BTW Zach, aren't you working on an amp (that I'm sure will pair perfectly with Atticus/Eikon)? I know all of your time/effort is focused on this release (much appreciated) but before people go buying amps for these gems, it might be worthwhile to hang back & see...just sayin'.
I was under the impression that the amp won't be ready until well after the Eikon release/shipping dates.
I believe you're right...
I just meant that since finding the "right amp" is a priority for so many, unless you already have an endgame amp, delaying a purchase until the release may be a wise move
just my 2 cents
Yeah we're working on the amp with an Electrical Engineering firm "Sonnare" to hopefully bring it to market fairly soon. It's an OTC (transformer coupled) tube amp with 4p1l rectifier tubes, a 6sn7 input tube, and a 12ax7 gain stage tube meant to drive both planars and dynamics, it'll have a dual tap system, one out for high impedance one for low, at least that's the plan. I will certainly update as we get closer, but yeah, it won't be out for a short while, hopefully not too long!
Is this the amp? Sweet