asus dsx vs schiit modi
Jan 6, 2013 at 9:07 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 12

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Im currently considering the modi/magni stack, I also am kind of feeling a headphone upgrade (coming from sr80s). However, I was curious if the modi would be a definite upgrade from the asus dsx card. For reference the asus has the Wolfson WM8766G (and/or?) Wolfson WM8776. If I got the asus id still go for a magni and use the saved 50 towards cans (which right now im considering used hd600s..)
 
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Im currently considering the modi/magni stack, I also am kind of feeling a headphone upgrade (coming from sr80s). However, I was curious if the Modi would be a definite upgrade from the Asus DSX card. For reference the Asus has the Wolfson WM8766G (and/or?) Wolfson WM8776. If I got the Asus id still go for a Magni and use the saved 50 towards cans (which right now I'm considering used hd600s..)

Do you have any need for surround sound features?
Or is this for music only?
 
Would the HD600 with the Magni sound good hooked up to the Xonar DSX, yes.
But I would assume the Modi would sound at least a little better.
 
Jan 7, 2013 at 12:41 AM Post #5 of 12

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Ive been looking around, has anyone had experience with the HT Omega Claro Halo? Rca outs would be nice for when I upgrade my amp and then optical for future dac.
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829271004
 
Jan 7, 2013 at 6:38 AM Post #6 of 12

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Also the dsx has a swapable opamp. Couldnt I put something awesome in there? Like some 627s? Using a dual adapter?

 
Considering the cost of the OPA627, it would make more sense to get a Xonar DX instead. Even with the stock op amp on the DSX, it is not its main limiting factor, so the "upgrade" would be mostly a waste of money.
 
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Thanks for the help guys. What about just stock vs stock? Im just thinking having the quality outs for future upgrades would be beneficial. Ive also thought the decent line in would be nice for vinyl ripping.
 
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I am not sure about the others, but the Xonar DX would be good enough, in terms of both input and output quality. On the input, however, it is best to keep the level below about 1.4 Vrms to minimize distortion, but also not very low to keep the dynamic range sufficiently high (there is no pre-amplifier or any analog gain control on the input).
 
Jan 8, 2013 at 9:58 PM Post #11 of 12

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I am not sure about the others, but the Xonar DX would be good enough, in terms of both input and output quality. On the input, however, it is best to keep the level below about 1.4 Vrms to minimize distortion, but also not very low to keep the dynamic range sufficiently high (there is no pre-amplifier or any analog gain control on the input).

 
My computer and the Asus Xonar DG has a lot of noise.  The noise can't be hear when you bump volume up so the music covers it.  But, between songs, it is frustrating to hear.  I've gone through all of the exercises, by updating drivers, muting all inputs (mics, etc.), I've used Ferrite magnet "chokes" on my cables to hopefully absorb RFI and EMI.  Still no luck at making things quiet.  I've also tried the Asus DSX, as well as the U3 (USB model) of the Xonar.  In the end, it was a complete exercise in futility.  My Magna / Modi combo arrived last even.  Initially, all was good until I started bouncing around the Interweb.  Then pops and bumps were going mad through my headphones.  I downloaded a PCI bus latency checker utility and monitored it for spikes in an attempt to isolate the cause.  In my case, it turned out to be the Avast! anti-virus program that would take control for a second as a new Web site was brought up.  This would steal computer resources and interrupt the signal traveling through my outbound USB cable to the Modi DAC. 
 
However, once that was resolved by removing the Avast! software via "safe mode" in Windows, all is now 100% pure satisfaction. 
 
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Anyones thoughts on the claro halo?

 
I don't have any experience with this card, but @ $199.00, you're inst the same price league as buying the Magna / Modi stack. Or, you can find some integrated amp / DAC combos in the F/S section with offerings from Audio-GD, etc.  The Audio Streamer II, by HRT, sells for about $110 - $120 used on the F/S forum.  It as an asynchronous USB DAC, and I truly enjoyed mine when I had it.
 
I guess after the exercise I've gone through in an attempt to keep all of my audio contained within the computer case itself, I spent many hours to try and resolve an issue that couldn't be resolved because of all noise going on with my computer.  But, if you really insist on moving forward with the computer solution, there are plans on the Internet for building a shroud out of sheet aluminum to provide protection for your sound card from various noise interruptions.  This is still not a 100% guarantee, though.
 
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Anyones thoughts on the claro halo?

Claro Halo is $199 and the Xonar DX sells for $67, and they both use the same audio processor, the C-Media CMI8788.
And I think the Schiit Magni ($99) headphone amplifier is a better value then the Claro Halo's headphone amplifier.
 

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