Anyone been burned through an Internet Deal
Sep 7, 2003 at 5:49 PM Thread Starter Post #1 of 13

BlindTiger

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I've been selling a lot of my stuff lately.
Had maybe over 20 transactions. One person never paid and one paid really late, like 3 months.
I think I'm about to get burned for another transaction. No money involve, just a trade.
I have some suspicions as to why I was not paid but I won't go into that. I'm soured by this experience.
How do you guys know who to sell to or to do a deal with? I should of listened to my inner voice that said this one feels funny.
How about after the sale? anyone had the buyer call and said hey you sold me something that was broken etc.
edited to add: it's no member here.
 
Sep 7, 2003 at 6:12 PM Post #2 of 13
I have actually been burned a few times by some people through Headwize and Head-Fi. Probably my own fault for sending the amps out prior to receiving their payment. I just chalk it up to experience as those bad deals are miniscule compared to all of the friends that I have made through the two forums. In my opinion, 99.9% of the people that frequent these two sites are among that best on the net.
 
Sep 7, 2003 at 6:18 PM Post #3 of 13
Yeah, but not seriously or in any way that will stop me from dealing over the Internet. I'm just more careful now and when it happens I chalk it up to experience. There is no way I could have the equipment I do now without dealing over the Internet. The overwhelming majority of folks I have dealt with have been wonderful!
 
Sep 7, 2003 at 9:13 PM Post #4 of 13
Yes, I have. It sucks. Make sure they have references, but even so, people still deteriorate.
 
Sep 7, 2003 at 10:07 PM Post #5 of 13
Only once so far on an ebay dvd transaction. The seller just went to **** and when I checked his feedback after the bad deal it was getting full of red 1.0 remarks. Thats really good considering the number of transactions (around 25?, knock on wood). Many problems were worked out by asking for and receiving replacements, and one pending (one bad disc in a set). Once I sent back a disc because the movie stopped toward the end and got it back with a note: this is a two sided dvd, please turn it over and enjoy the rest of the movie. Learn something new everyday.

On amazon I'm batting 1.000 and actually prefer to use the new/used section as the shipping is two to three times faster. I don't know what it is about amazon nowadays but they used to be very fast. Now, they are rivaling discountdvd in their snail-ness.
 
Sep 15, 2003 at 1:34 AM Post #6 of 13
While shopping for a digital camera for my dad I've just found this dealer(http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...category=30020) who is selling a very (unusually) high number of high end digital cameras. He has 104 feedbacks and they are all good BUT all those auctions end on the same say AND they are all highly sought items at very good prices. I really doubt an individual has that many high end cameras waiting to be shipping that quickly. Does it smell fishy?

Also once I asked a seller some questions and he offered the camera at a very cheap price outside the auction. When asked about the payment method he wanted Western union money transfer AND he didn't have any feedback. I stopped communicating when he said that he put $20,000 in the ebay customer protection to protect his customers.
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Sep 15, 2003 at 2:21 AM Post #7 of 13
Im surprised you have found amazon slow. They have been amazingly fast for me. Ive done probably 15 or so purchases from them in the last year... I always get the product within a week... usually ships out next day... always within 2-3.
 
Sep 15, 2003 at 2:50 AM Post #8 of 13
I just make sure that the person has references. Ebay and Heatware is unacceptable. I was surprised how a bunch of friends can easily give each other many references. The best ones in my book are individual forum based reference areas such as the one on Head-Fi.
 
Sep 15, 2003 at 3:04 AM Post #9 of 13
Of course, face to face deals are the safest.
I think honesty and communication means a lot. However, when I get one word answers or no response my spidey senses go on.
 
Sep 16, 2003 at 1:30 AM Post #10 of 13
Once I sold my gamecube stuff for $250. The buyer ended up having a feedback of -1 . I didn't even bother emailing him. I filed a complaint through ebay and I didn't have to pay the listing/end sale fees. I ended up re-listing it and getting a real payment.
 
Sep 16, 2003 at 11:34 PM Post #12 of 13
...burned on this FAKE-ass Judy Garland autograph from eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=3536631744

...but luckily I slammed the guy into the wall with irrefutable proof that it was fake (it was made in '84, where she died way earlier).

Mother****er tried to deny me a refund, even if I got it authenticated by the sole eBay-recommended authenticator and it said "most likely fake." It had to say "definitely fake," which he goes on to tell me almost never happens.

Well, I called Washington state on his ass and I got my money back. The guy, I believe, is a gigantic fraud and works in cahoots with authenticautographs98035 buying LP's and then re-selling them "signed." In fact, notice that all he sells *are* signed LP's and the ink looks as fresh as the morning dew on each one. person.

Needless to say, watch out for autographs on eBay! Make sure your seller does not have "Private Feedback" or that the auction is not a "Private Auction." Make sure you get the seller's refund policy in writing. Make sure they or the authorizing agency actually exist! (I checked on the 'net for the one in my listing, but it didn't exist, so obviously the net is a great place to start). Most importantly, research your seller! If I would have typed the guy's eBay name in Google, I would have gotten a page by an AC/DC fan on how he's running scams on eBay. I didn't and I almost lost $210 for good.

I hope this helps someone out there.

- SMM
 

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