[REXNFX]

In answer to your other question, UAPP can't access Tidal offline content...

 

[DanBa]

Android USB audio

Information search:
1. Click on the following link
https://www.google.fr/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22XY%22+site:http:%2F%2Fwww.head-fi.org%2Ft%2F595071%2Fandroid-phones-and-usb-dacs
2. Replace XY by your search keyword(s).

FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP

A list of USB OTG cables / adapters:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5

A list of USB Type-C cables / adapters:
https://goo.gl/n1cxPx

A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d

A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3 having a microSD card slot:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/yBKivk

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2 having a microSD card slot:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4 having a microSD card slot:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/dIwrqp

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3 having a microSD card slot:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5 having a microSD card slot:
stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/zUjud0

A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note4 having a microSD card slot:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/gnmvuf

USB DAC descriptors:
http://goo.gl/pYJbTu

The basics:
http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

 

[DarkerStars]

Well, I have some good news regarding the SMSL X-USB.   I tried running it off my Galaxy Note 4 (5.1.1) and it works exactly the way I (we?) want! Doesn't work on my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (5.0.2) or my Note 3 (5.0)

When using native android usb audio, (spotify, tune in radio etc) the phone seems to be up-sampling to 192khz, as that is what is reported on the SMSL display! My processor (PPI DSP-88R) does accept 192 via optical, then down-samples and processes the signal. Sounds great and volume control works. Anyone can confirm what/how the android system up-converts to 192khz? Was this something added to Android 5.1.1, or is this a Samsung only thing?

When using UAPP, the smsl shows exactly the bitrate of my audio files....i've tested 44/16,44/24,88.2/24,96/24,192/24..all play great and my processor has no problem working with them.  Volume control also works on a hardware level. 

Now we just need Samsung to update the Galaxy Tab S to Android 5.1.1 and hopefully the functionality will be identical to the Note 4

I live in Toronto, don't think I've got any local Helix dealers. Was looking at a couple of Helix DSP Pro on ebay from Italy. I might be interested in your Helix DSP Pro in the next month or so, once I get some funds...lets take that to PM.

Did you test the Tab S with 4.4.2 and the SMSL?   CM12.1 and the the SMSL?

My music resides on a 128 GB USB stick, which I connect to my LG G4 (via OTG). This setup drains significantly my G4 battery, Even when using a Y splitter cable which provides power only to the USB stick (partly due to the mediaserver load).

Recently I cam across a LAVA product http://lavalink.com/products/samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-adapters-hubs-poe-hubs-2/usb-otg-host-charge-adapter-tab4-tabpro/  which seems to be relevant for Samsung devices. This product enables OTG and charging of the phone at the same time.

Is it compatible with the G4? what type of USB is in the LG G4?
Is there another solution or a an LG G4 compatible adapter?

Please advice

Thanks

I've read good things about it, plan to get one to use on my Tab S, since typical methods have failed.

 


Thanks


 


Sometimes (rarely) when I connect the USB stick to the Y cable and set the charging (via wall charger or an external battery pack), the charging indication indicates charging. Although in practice the phone does not charge and the battery keeps depleting.


 


BTW. does someone here uses the LAVA SimulCharge adapter?


 


Thanks again

I'm using the LAVA STS-3U .  Originally with a Tab S 8.4 mounted in my car...I use it with a powered usb hub that is connected to a behringer uca 202 DAC and 2 HID devices. Held charge at 100% with screen on full blast and audio streaming... etc...


 


I have since swapped the Tab S 8.4 for a Tab S2 8.0 and that also works great with the STS-3U.  I swapped because I couldn't get my XMOS based SMSL X-USB to work with the S. It works great with the S2 though.


 


 I now have a tablet that gets charged and can output in native android at 192KHz 24bit.


 


 This Tab S2 seems to up-convert everything to 192/24...ie RDIO , TUNEIN etc..the SMSL displays what it receives from USB , and in native android it is always 192!


 


When i use UAPP, the SMSL reports exactly what the flac's bit rate is....ie 44.1/88.2/96/176.4/192...the optical out goes to my ppi dpi-88r dsp processor...which has no problem accepting optical 192.


 


Sorry to sidetrack from your question, but what is the Tab S2 Android audio sub-system doing?


 


When I use Gonemad player to play a 96Khz/24bit flac, I assume Gonemad decompresses the flac and sends the output to the android audio system. from there it gets up-sampled to 192kHz (as my SMSL shows on its display)and sent out to the DAC? If this is the case, then I am getting the true quality out of the flac and native android...there would be no need for UAPP.


 


How can i test and find out what is really happening?


 


 


 

Oh don't say that. Last thing I need is to switch devices again. I'm on the Tab S 8.4 on the couple day old CM12.1. I really don't wanna spend a couple hundred dollars more just because I want to eliminate my 5vRCA Bluetooth Receiver for a DAC and Helix DSP.

 

[Abee]

Hi REXNFX,
 
Thanks for your feedback. Shame UAPP can't access Tidal offline content. I may raise it with their support team once I'm up and running with their app.
 
Tidal definitely sound better through the UAPP app than the local Tidal app?         Again, Thanks

 

[REXNFX]

Hi REXNFX,

Thanks for your feedback. Shame UAPP can't access Tidal offline content. I may raise it with their support team once I'm up and running with their app.

Tidal definitely sound better through the UAPP app than the local Tidal app?         Again, Thanks

Sounds much better, however it stutters more, hopefully UAPP will fix it soon.

 

[s4tch]

In answer to your other question, UAPP can't access Tidal offline content...

btw that wouldn't be an issue if there was a way to convert offline content to regular flac files...

 

[DarkerStars]

It's a shame UApp isn't just an awesome driver Instead of a media player, or came with a driver so all tablet audio will flow through it.

Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk

 

[imeem]

It's a shame UApp isn't just an awesome driver Instead of a media player, or came with a driver so all tablet audio will flow through it.

Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk

maybe if they created their own custom ROM. 

 

[aspro]

I bought a Chord Mojo assuming (correctly) that I could load FLAC files on my cheap Android phone (Samsung Trend Plus) and there would be a digital output for the Mojo.  This was naive as I subsequently discovered as the phone doesn't support OTG - very irritating.
 
Why isn't On The Go (OTG) standard on all smartphones?
Why are manufacturers so coy about including it in their specs?
Why are mobile phone shop staff so ignorant about OTG?
 
Anyway after some research I bought a Motorola Moto E 4G LTE.  Well done Motorola for now including OTG on all their smartphones (previous versions of the E didn't support OTG).
 
OTG worked out of the box with the Mojo using Audio Player Pro (as recommended by Chord).
 
So now I have a MotoMojo combination.  My only problem has been getting a good OTG cable to link them.  I have a Lindy version but the connection is very fragile so I've ordered a Forzaaudioworks cable based on info helpfully posted here.    

 

[Takeanidea]

  I bought a Chord Mojo assuming (correctly) that I could load FLAC files on my cheap Android phone (Samsung Trend Plus) and there would be a digital output for the Mojo.  This was naive as I subsequently discovered as the phone doesn't support OTG - very irritating.
 
Why isn't On The Go (OTG) standard on all smartphones?
Why are manufacturers so coy about including it in their specs?
Why are mobile phone shop staff so ignorant about OTG?
 
Anyway after some research I bought a Motorola Moto E 4G LTE.  Well done Motorola for now including OTG on all their smartphones (previous versions of the E didn't support OTG).
 
OTG worked out of the box with the Mojo using Audio Player Pro (as recommended by Chord).
 
So now I have a MotoMojo combination.  My only problem has been getting a good OTG cable to link them.  I have a Lindy version but the connection is very fragile so I've ordered a Forzaaudioworks cable based on info helpfully posted here.    

Welcome and congratulations on your Chord Mojo purchase. That is some Dac to start your OTG journey with

 

[NZtechfreak]

Tried a Belkin Micro USB to C today with my Chord Mojo and Nexus 6P - all working fine. Cable is long and impractical, but at least knowing that it works we should see some shorter cables coming along soonish. Could use the TechMatte micro USB to USB C adapter with a short micro USB cable I guess (now that they have fixed it and it complies with the right spec as per Benson Leung's updated review), but that would probably stress the port a bit and I think wouldn't be that practical either.

 

[DanBa]

  Tried a Belkin USB Micro B to C today with my Chord Mojo and Nexus 6P - all working fine. 

 
This one?
 
http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU031-Belkin/p/P-F2CU031/
 
Thanks!

 

[NZtechfreak]

   
This one?
 
http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU031-Belkin/p/P-F2CU031/
 
Thanks!

 
Actually this one, not sure why I said micro B - micro USB to USB C:
 
https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/20-USB-C-to-Micro-USB-Cable/24106308

 

[DanBa]

I don’t understand USB Type-C anymore!
 
On the Belkin website, it is labelled 2.0 USB-C to Micro USB Charge Cable (manufacturer code: F2CU033bt06-BLK)
http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU033-Belkin/p/P-F2CU033/
 
"CHARGE AND SYNC YOUR DEVICES
The Belkin USB-A to USB-C Charge Cable lets you charge your USB-C device as well as sync your photos, music and data to your existing laptop at transfer speeds of 480 Mbps. Plus, the cable also supports up to 3 Amps of power output for charging USB-C devices.
Made for: Connecting from a standard USB-A device to a USB-C (Also Known as USB Type-C) enabled device"
 
In other words, according to the Belkin website, this cable is used to connect a USB-A device (i.e. a PC / Mac operating as USB host) to a USB-C enabled device or USB-B device (i.e. a USB peripheral like the dual-role Nexus 6P operating as USB peripheral).
 
And this cable is successfully used to connect the dual-role Nexus 6P operating as USB host (i.e. USB-A device) to a Chord Mojo USB DAC always operating as USB peripheral (i.e. USB-B device)!

 

[REXNFX]

  I don’t understand USB Type-C anymore!
 
On the Belkin website, it is labelled 2.0 USB-C to Micro USB Charge Cable (manufacturer code: F2CU033bt06-BLK)
http://www.belkin.com/us/F2CU033-Belkin/p/P-F2CU033/
 
"CHARGE AND SYNC YOUR DEVICES
The Belkin USB-A to USB-C Charge Cable lets you charge your USB-C device as well as sync your photos, music and data to your existing laptop at transfer speeds of 480 Mbps. Plus, the cable also supports up to 3 Amps of power output for charging USB-C devices.
Made for: Connecting from a standard USB-A device to a USB-C (Also Known as USB Type-C) enabled device"
 
In other words, according to the Belkin website, this cable is used to connect a USB-A device (i.e. a PC / Mac operating as USB host) to a USB-C enabled device or USB-B device (i.e. a USB peripheral like the dual-role Nexus 6P operating as USB peripheral).
 
And this cable is successfully used to connect the dual-role Nexus 6P operating as USB host (i.e. USB-A device) to a Chord Mojo USB DAC always operating as USB peripheral (i.e. USB-B device)!

My head hurts....