[DanBa]

Android USB audio
 
Information search:
1. Click on the following link
https://www.google.fr/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22XY%22+site:http:%2F%2Fwww.head-fi.org%2Ft%2F595071%2Fandroid-phones-and-usb-dacs
2. Replace XY by your search keyword(s).
 
FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
 
A list of USB OTG cables:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
 
A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
 
A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android 5.0 Lollipop:
stock Google Nexus X running on Android 5.0 Lollipop > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/x3loEQ
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/yBKivk
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/dIwrqp
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
http://goo.gl/zUjud0
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note4:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/gnmvuf
 
USB DAC descriptors:
http://goo.gl/pYJbTu
 
The basics:
http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

 

[m-i-c-k-e-y]

Yep see second

  Bummer as it worked for me, you would probably like it. Did you try the "Sync now" button?

Yep see second post...

 

[Orionis]

Hey guys, I bought some wires from amazon and ebay to connect my S3 to my E17k, but it doesn't seem to read it. the wiring layout appears to be the equivalent of a DAC, but it still doesnt work... I used a micro usb to usb2.0 otg and then a usb2.0 to micro. Do I need a specific wire to achieve this connection, or does this confirm that it can't be done on my phone?

Thank you

 

[Davy Wentzler]

  Hey guys, I bought some wires from amazon and ebay to connect my S3 to my E17k, but it doesn't seem to read it. the wiring layout appears to be the equivalent of a DAC, but it still doesnt work... I used a micro usb to usb2.0 otg and then a usb2.0 to micro. Do I need a specific wire to achieve this connection, or does this confirm that it can't be done on my phone?

Thank you

 
After connecting to the S3, cycle the E17's menu from USB to USB again, that can help sometimes.

 

[m-i-c-k-e-y]

Davy, will never be tired on thanking you for your UAPP. Keep it up!
 
Michael

 

[Orionis]

   
After connecting to the S3, cycle the E17's menu from USB to USB again, that can help sometimes.

Thanks! I'll try that tonight and report back!

 

[DanBa]

  I have a Galaxy Note 3 from Verizon running Android 4.4.4 and Onkyo HF Player woirks fine for me, I keep all of my music on the ext mic roSD card. I had to ge into settings->Music Folders and select the extSdCard folder where I keep my music before it could find my music. 

 
Me too.
 
Storage capacity expansion
 

 
 
USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP)
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4860#post_10621362
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4710#post_10544580
 

 
 
Hibymusic
 

 
 
Onkyo HF Player
 

 
 
 
 
Hardware volume control
 

 

[Orionis]

   
After connecting to the S3, cycle the E17's menu from USB to USB again, that can help sometimes.

Following up on this, my S3 seems to detect that a USB connection is made (I get a pop up at the top of the screen) but when I play music on poweramp, and cycle through the E17k modes, as soon as it hits USB, poweramp will start playing the music in fast forward (with no sound output). If I put COX or AUX the song plays at a normal speed, but as soon as I put it on USB all the songs play in fast forward. 

It seems the S3 is definitely detecting the E17k, but it doesn't appear to be working as intended. Any ideas? Thanks!

 

[Pokersound]

Can somebody notice diference in sq between uapp, hibymusic and onkyo hf player?

 

[Theogenes]

@DanBa: Random thought, but your (excellent) explanations of various items relating to getting high-quality audio out of Android devices often rely on images. Just out of curiosity, are you uploading those to Head-Fi, so they (presumably) won't disappear like some photos hosted on external websites?
 
Might seem like a silly question, but I know I've looked back on some of your previous posts a few times and I'm sure others have too. Just want to make sure that all your work will be available on the site for the foreseeable future.

 

[h1f1add1cted]

Can somebody notice diference in sq between uapp, hibymusic and onkyo hf player?

No always the same. Tested with micro iDSD and other DACs. Keep in mind we speak about digital signals, not analog signals, there is no change it's pass through due audio framework from Android.

 

[Orionis]

  Hey guys, I bought some wires from amazon and ebay to connect my S3 to my E17k, but it doesn't seem to read it. the wiring layout appears to be the equivalent of a DAC, but it still doesnt work... I used a micro usb to usb2.0 otg and then a usb2.0 to micro. Do I need a specific wire to achieve this connection, or does this confirm that it can't be done on my phone?

Thank you

Anyone have a solution for this? My S3 seems to notice the usb connection, but it doesnt seem to be outputting sound to it.

 

[ProtegeManiac]

  Anyone have a solution for this? My S3 seems to notice the usb connection, but it doesnt seem to be outputting sound to it.

 
Try a different OTG cable. I'm using one I got online, then found one in a local store with straight plugs - tried two samples and neither worked. 

 

[SubSTI]

Nexus 7 (2013) on 5.02 -> Onkyo player (locked version) -> iFi Nano iDSD = Plays like a charm!
Haven't tried the HF version yet.
 
Tried to connect a USB stick using a 4 port USB hub: iFi still plays, but the USB sticks (tried 2) are not recognized, so there goes my portable solution....

 

[DanBa]

  Hey guys, I bought some wires from amazon and ebay to connect my S3 to my E17k, but it doesn't seem to read it. the wiring layout appears to be the equivalent of a DAC, but it still doesnt work... I used a micro usb to usb2.0 otg and then a usb2.0 to micro. Do I need a specific wire to achieve this connection, or does this confirm that it can't be done on my phone?

Thank you

 
Let's suppose the FiiO E17K is compatible with the native USB audio of the Galaxy S3.
music file >> stock music player (or YouTube) running on Galaxy S3 >> USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable >> FiiO E17K USB DAC/amp >> headphones
 
Each component should be separately tested.
Go to next test only if the ongoing test is successful.
 
. Test the FiiO E17K with a PC or a Mac:
PC >> regular USB cable >> FiiO E17K >> headphones
 
 . Test the Android device with a USB OTG adapter cable and a simpler USB peripheral like a USB mouse or a USB keyboard:
Galaxy S3 >> USB OTG adapter cable >> USB mouse
 
. Test the complete setup:
music file >> stock music player (or YouTube) running on Galaxy S3 >> USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable >> FiiO E17K USB DAC/amp >> headphones
 
 
 If the last test is not successful, the native USB audio of the Galaxy S3 is apparently not compatible with the FiiO E17K.
Then test the FiiO E17K with one of the following three music player apps which include its own USB audio user-space driver:
. USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
. HibyMusic
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hiby.music
. Onkyo HF Player
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.musicplayer
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.hfplayer_unlocker