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Android phones and USB DACs

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by nztechfreak, Feb 9, 2012.
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  1. DanBa
    Android USB audio
     
    Information search:
    1. Click on the following link
    https://www.google.fr/?gws_rd=ssl#q=%22XY%22+site:http:%2F%2Fwww.head-fi.org%2Ft%2F595071%2Fandroid-phones-and-usb-dacs
    2. Replace XY by your search keyword(s).
     
    FAQ:
    http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
     
    A list of USB OTG cables:
    http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
     
    A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with compatible USB DAC:
    stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/ksoF0d
     
    A list of USB Audio Player PRO resources (compatible USB DAC, compatible Android devices, ...):
    http://www.extreamsd.com/USBAudioRecorderPRO/
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the native USB audio of Android 5.0 Lollipop:
    stock Google Nexus X running on Android 5.0 Lollipop > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/x3loEQ
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
    stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/yBKivk
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
    stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/Ga1jYw
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
    stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/dIwrqp
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
    stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S5:
    stock Samsung Galaxy S5 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >>headphones
    http://goo.gl/zUjud0
     
    A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note4:
    stock Samsung Galaxy Note4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
    http://goo.gl/gnmvuf
     
    USB DAC descriptors:
    http://goo.gl/pYJbTu
     
    The basics:
    http://goo.gl/MCFY2x


     
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  2. m-i-c-k-e-y
    Yep see second
    Yep see second post...
     
  3. Orionis
    Hey guys, I bought some wires from amazon and ebay to connect my S3 to my E17k, but it doesn't seem to read it. the wiring layout appears to be the equivalent of a DAC, but it still doesnt work... I used a micro usb to usb2.0 otg and then a usb2.0 to micro. Do I need a specific wire to achieve this connection, or does this confirm that it can't be done on my phone?

    Thank you
     
  4. Davy Wentzler
     
    After connecting to the S3, cycle the E17's menu from USB to USB again, that can help sometimes.
     
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  5. m-i-c-k-e-y
    Davy, will never be tired on thanking you for your UAPP. Keep it up!
     
    Michael
     
  6. Orionis
    Thanks! I'll try that tonight and report back!
     
  7. DanBa
     
    Me too.
     
    Storage capacity expansion
     
    Slide2.jpg
     
     
    USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP)
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4860#post_10621362
    http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/4710#post_10544580
     
    00UAPP.png
     
     
    Hibymusic
     
    00Hiby.png
     
     
    Onkyo HF Player
     
    00OnkyoHFPlayer.png
     
     
     
     
    Hardware volume control
     
    Slide1.jpg
     
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  8. Orionis
    Following up on this, my S3 seems to detect that a USB connection is made (I get a pop up at the top of the screen) but when I play music on poweramp, and cycle through the E17k modes, as soon as it hits USB, poweramp will start playing the music in fast forward (with no sound output). If I put COX or AUX the song plays at a normal speed, but as soon as I put it on USB all the songs play in fast forward. 

    It seems the S3 is definitely detecting the E17k, but it doesn't appear to be working as intended. Any ideas? Thanks!
     
  9. Pokersound
    Can somebody notice diference in sq between uapp, hibymusic and onkyo hf player?
     
  10. Theogenes
    @DanBa: Random thought, but your (excellent) explanations of various items relating to getting high-quality audio out of Android devices often rely on images. Just out of curiosity, are you uploading those to Head-Fi, so they (presumably) won't disappear like some photos hosted on external websites?
     
    Might seem like a silly question, but I know I've looked back on some of your previous posts a few times and I'm sure others have too. Just want to make sure that all your work will be available on the site for the foreseeable future.
     
  11. h1f1add1cted

    No always the same. Tested with micro iDSD and other DACs. Keep in mind we speak about digital signals, not analog signals, there is no change it's pass through due audio framework from Android.
     
  12. Orionis
    Anyone have a solution for this? My S3 seems to notice the usb connection, but it doesnt seem to be outputting sound to it.
     
  13. ProtegeManiac Contributor
     
    Try a different OTG cable. I'm using one I got online, then found one in a local store with straight plugs - tried two samples and neither worked. 
     
  14. SubSTI
    Nexus 7 (2013) on 5.02 -> Onkyo player (locked version) -> iFi Nano iDSD = Plays like a charm!
    Haven't tried the HF version yet.
     
    Tried to connect a USB stick using a 4 port USB hub: iFi still plays, but the USB sticks (tried 2) are not recognized, so there goes my portable solution....
     
  15. DanBa
     
    Let's suppose the FiiO E17K is compatible with the native USB audio of the Galaxy S3.
    music file >> stock music player (or YouTube) running on Galaxy S3 >> USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable >> FiiO E17K USB DAC/amp >> headphones
     
    Each component should be separately tested.
    Go to next test only if the ongoing test is successful.
     
    . Test the FiiO E17K with a PC or a Mac:
    PC >> regular USB cable >> FiiO E17K >> headphones
     
     . Test the Android device with a USB OTG adapter cable and a simpler USB peripheral like a USB mouse or a USB keyboard:
    Galaxy S3 >> USB OTG adapter cable >> USB mouse
     
    . Test the complete setup:
    music file >> stock music player (or YouTube) running on Galaxy S3 >> USB OTG adapter + regular USB cable >> FiiO E17K USB DAC/amp >> headphones
     
     
     If the last test is not successful, the native USB audio of the Galaxy S3 is apparently not compatible with the FiiO E17K.
    Then test the FiiO E17K with one of the following three music player apps which include its own USB audio user-space driver:
    . USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP)
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.extreamsd.usbaudioplayerpro
    . HibyMusic
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hiby.music
    . Onkyo HF Player
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.musicplayer
    https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.onkyo.jp.hfplayer_unlocker
     
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