Android phones and USB DACs
Apr 8, 2014 at 12:23 PM Post #4,486 of 9,526
  A list of stock Android-powered devices reportedly interworking with standard USB DAC:
stock Android device > digital USB audio out >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/HCzW1a
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3:
stock Samsung Galaxy S3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/2fPYtk
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note2:
stock Galaxy Note2 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/4Nq4Y8
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samung Galaxy S4:
stock Samsung Galaxy S4 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/dIwrqp
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy Note3:
stock Samsung Galaxy Note3 > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (ID pin grounded) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
http://goo.gl/7Bvkhz
 
A list of standard USB DAC reportedly non-interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S3 / Note2 / S4 / Note3 using USB Audio Recorder PRO /  USB Audio Player PRO:
http://goo.gl/kHJmfE
 
A list of USB OTG cables:
http://goo.gl/4JyOe5
 
FAQ:
http://goo.gl/A4dCnP
 
The basics:
http://goo.gl/MCFY2x

How does it help me?
I just need to know if G2 is capable of 24/96 / 24/192 digital output via USB.
 
Apr 8, 2014 at 1:48 PM Post #4,487 of 9,526
   
Now that I have a 128GB microSD card, I'm mostly using the Dragonfly to be honest. It only really works via UAPP, so the increased local storage makes a world of difference as to how usable it is for me with the phone - with enough local storage the form factor just puts it over the top. It's basically an inline DAC/amp, which is really where you want to be with this whole game if you're going for truly portable, rather than transportable.
 
When I want to just listen to Spotify and stuff then the Pico still serves very nicely there.

Can you elaborate on the sonic differences between the two?  Thanks.
 
Apr 8, 2014 at 2:15 PM Post #4,488 of 9,526
  can you use the" USB Pro player" to see if it recognize the DAC as 192khz?
I am asking since I have tried "hifime DIY saber" with the G2 and USB Pro player and I could see the DAC work at 44.1, which mean it down sample the signal.
 
I want to know if this related to the specific DAC.
 
Thanks


I can't, only the Herus DAC belongs to me, it's my friend's phone and he has no need for that app because he only listens through the phone's own headphone jack.
 
If I can get the GO 1000 DAC to do a proper handshake using a y-splitter OTG cable and external battery, that will tell us what you are looking for, as the GO 1000 does have sample rate indicator LEDs.
 
However I don't think that will work, even when first connecting the battery to the DAC there is still an aspect of the handshake with the phone where the DAC tells it how much power it draws. That doesn't typically change when connected to an external battery, the DAC's USB controller still reports needing too much current and the handshake is then rejected by the phone.
 
Apr 8, 2014 at 3:41 PM Post #4,491 of 9,526
  How does it help me?
I just need to know if G2 is capable of 24/96 / 24/192 digital output via USB.

 
I used to post the Android USB audio resource lists every 5 pages (..,page 290, page 295, page 300, ...).
 
 
  can you use the" USB Pro player" to see if it recognize the DAC as 192khz?
I am asking since I have tried "hifime DIY saber" with the G2 and USB Pro player and I could see the DAC work at 44.1, which mean it down sample the signal.
 
I want to know if this related to the specific DAC.
 
Thanks

 
The USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) can display In & Out sampling rates.
 
44.100 music file > UAPP on USB host-enabled Android device (LG G2, ...) > 44.100 USB audio stream >> 24/96-capable USB DAC (ODAC, FiiO E17, HiFimeDIY Sabre, ...)
 

 
 
96.000 music file > UAPP on USB host-enabled Android device (LG G2, ...) > 96.000 USB audio stream >> 24/96-capable USB DAC (ODAC, FiiO E17, HiFimeDIY Sabre, ...)
 

 
 
192.000 music file > UAPP on USB host-enabled Android device (LG G2, ...) > 96.000 USB audio stream >> 24/96-capable USB DAC (ODAC, FiiO E17, HiFimeDIY Sabre, ...)
 

 
 
352.800 music file > UAPP on USB host-enabled Android device (LG G2, ...) > 96.000 USB audio stream >> 24/96-capable USB DAC (ODAC, FiiO E17, HiFimeDIY Sabre, ...) 
 

 
Apr 8, 2014 at 3:57 PM Post #4,494 of 9,526
   
I used to post the Android USB audio resource lists every 5 pages (..,page 290, page 295, page 300, ...).
 
 
The USB Audio Player PRO (UAPP) can display In & Out sampling rates.
 
  192.000 music file > UAPP on USB host-enabled Android device (LG G2, ...) > 96.000 USB audio stream >> 24/96-capable USB DAC (ODAC, FiiO E17, HiFimeDIY Sabre, ...)
 

 
Was the 192 kHz file down sampled to 96 kHz because the DAC itself didn't support 192?
 
 
 

 
Apr 8, 2014 at 4:06 PM Post #4,496 of 9,526
Can you elaborate on the sonic differences between the two?  Thanks.


I will, however I will need to properly sit down and compare them. That may take a couple of days between work and the twins (3 months old now) and organising NZs first headphone meet and maybe landing the clinical director job and thus even more work :)
 
Apr 8, 2014 at 4:17 PM Post #4,498 of 9,526
  do you use official Jelly Bean 4.2.2 without root?


The answer is yes, but it's not my phone, it's my friend's phone which he graciously allows me to use for testing Android USB audio with my Herus DAC.
 
I have a Nokia Lumia 822 Windows Phone 8, a personal private nightmare shared only by a precious few, possibly ending in May with the 8.1 OS update?
 
Apr 8, 2014 at 4:29 PM Post #4,499 of 9,526
  yes the app supposed to work that way.
this is really good app for high end result since it lock the usb device and provide bit perfect playback.


I'm pretty sure the G2's stock/included LG music player app works in the same way, they supposedly spent substantial resources in making sure it bypasses all layers of Android OS audio processing according to a few of the reviews of the G2.
 

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