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Could you provide a dmesg log output in order to know what is going on at the kernel level between the S3 and the hiFace Two?
 
dmesg:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=dmesg
 
 
[size=9pt]1.                                 [/size][size=9pt]0x80    bmAttributes   (Bus-powered Device)[/size]
[size=9pt]2.                                 [/size][size=9pt]0xFA    MaxPower   (500 mA)[/size]
http://pastebin.com/aGiKSQPc
 
The hiFace Two requires 500 mA.
According to the USB spec, the S3 can only provide 100 mA.
So there is a need to connect the hiFace Two to a S3 via a (battery) powered USB hub, which provides the required 500 mA.
 
 
The USB Audio Driver for ALSA of the S3 is able to drive USB Audio Class 2 (UAC2) devices like the hiFace Two.
https://github.com/sgs3/GT-I9300_Kernel/blob/master/sound/usb/card.c#L2
 
2 *   (Tentative) USB Audio Driver for ALSA
 
227 case UAC_VERSION_1: {
 
246 case UAC_VERSION_2: {
 
 
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A list of standard USB DAC reportedly interworking with the Android-powered smartphone Samsung Galaxy S III:
 
stock Samsung Galaxy S III > digital USB audio out >> USB OTG cable (micro-A plug inserted in the S III) >> standard USB DAC >> amp >> headphones
 
 
. AMB Gamma 1:
http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma1/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/780#post_8750043
 
. AMB Gamma 2:
http://www.amb.org/audio/gamma2/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27247705&postcount=279
 
. Asus Xonar U3 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.asus.com/Multimedia/Audio_Cards/Xonar_U3/
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/429589-Samsung-Galaxy-S3?s=1a313fae4795a9a7493a6ce0f677ca8e&p=8551119&viewfull=1#post8551119
 
. Behringer UCA202 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA202.aspx
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/240#post_8654226
 
. Behringer UCA222 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.behringer.com/en/Products/UCA222.aspx
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651
 
. Beresford Caiman:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/audio-visual/hi-fi-and-audio/hi-fi-accessories/beresford-caiman-673787/review
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651
 
. C-Media chipset-based sound card Dynamode 7 channel USB 2.0 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.chinacomputerparts.com/d-p1140199199635616900-cables/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27604946&postcount=449
 
. Cakewalk Sonar SPS 25:
https://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/reader.aspx/2007013101
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651
 
. Corsair HS1 Gaming headset (USB DAC/amp/headphones):
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3989/corsair-hs1-gaming-headset
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27238117#post27238117
 
. FiiO E7 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headfonia.com/fiio-e7-portable-dac/
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/07/galaxy-s-iii-real-user-review-part-2.html
 
. Furutech ADL Cruise (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.furutech.com/a2008/product2.asp?prodNo=399
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838
 
. GoVibe DAC:
http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=2824.0
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2440879&st=500&p=53317360&#entry53317360
 
. GoVibe Mini USB DAC:
http://www.jaben.com.au/collections/go-vibe/products/govibe-minidac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii/15#post_8525675
 
. GoVibe Petite (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/290711/govibe-petite-dac-amp-appreciation-thread-pics-little-update
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/195#post_8552452
 
. HRT HeadStreamer (USB DAC/amp):
http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/headstreamer
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8677483
 
. HRT Music Streamer II:
http://highresolutiontechnologies.com/music-streamer-ii
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/465#post_8534856
 
. HeadAmp Pico (USB DAC/amp): (Exynos-based S III connected to Pico via USB 2.0 hub)
http://www.headamp.com/pico/pico_dac_amp/index.htm
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/480#post_8539705
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/750#post_8688938
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/720#post_8638606
 
. HeadRoom Total BitHead (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.headphone.com/learning-center/bithead-faq.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs-how-to-increase-the-issues-priority-with-google/135#post_8527516
 
. HeadStage USB DAC cable:
http://www.inearmatters.net/2010/04/short-review-headstage-usb-dac-cable.html
http://www.headphiles.org/index.php/topic,4452.msg241979.html#msg241979
 
. HiFiMan Express HM-101:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/571330/hifiman-express-brand-and-hm-101-portable-usb-dac
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=27284184&postcount=291
 
. iBasso D-Zero (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=73
http://neutronmp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=314&start=20#p1636
 
. iBasso D2 Boa (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=30
http://www.head-fi.org/t/552014/pictures-of-your-portable-rig-part-xv/5535#post_8509186
 
. iBasso D2+ Boa (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=42
http://www.computeraudiophile.com/f6-dac-digital-analog-conversion/usb-audio-enabled-android-powered-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-12338/#post171651
 
. iBasso D5 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.head-fi.org/t/556490/ibasso-d5-hj-yet-another-usb-dac-amp
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693
 
. iBasso D10 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=39
http://www.head-fi.org/t/628374/samsung-galaxy-s3-to-dac-usb-micro-b-male-to-mini-b-male#post_8735134
 
. iBasso D12 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.ibasso.com/en/products/show.asp?ID=63
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=29069294&postcount=924
 
. iQube v2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.i-qube.nl/index.php?id=24
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?s=6fe26080d10769d0f785157c83e74465&p=31207282&postcount=1268
 
. KingRex UD-01:
http://www.kingrex.co.uk/dac.html
https://www.facebook.com/headfonia/posts/352787358128700
 
. Leckerton UHA-6S MKII (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.leckertonaudio.com/products/uha-6s-mkii/
http://www.head-fi.org/t/602493/new-leckerton-uha-6s-mkii-portable-headphone-amplifier-announced-update-user-impressions-added-july-20th-2012/435#post_8698006
 
. Microsoft Philips Digital Sound System 80 (USB DAC/amp/speakers):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Sound_System_80
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1703218
 
. NuForce Icon HDP (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.nuforce.com/hp/products/iconhdp/index.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/608535/wolfson-dac-confirmed-for-galaxy-s3/585#post_8567838
 
. NuForce Icon Mobile (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/nuforce10/mobile.html
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/435#post_8759826
 
. Objective DAC (ODAC):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/e-dac-24bit-miniature-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=46
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/odac
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8707637
 
. ODAC+O2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://epiphany-acoustics.co.uk/our-products/ehp-o2d-miniature-desktop-headphone-amplifier-with-usb-dac/
http://www.jdslabs.com/item.php?fetchitem=48
http://www.headnhifi.com/index.php/shop/objective/o2120527192048
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=410941392302962&id=164588276945555
 
. Ordnance .25 (USB DAC/amp):
http://jaben.net/forums/index.php?topic=9984.0
http://www.head-fi.org/t/614111/finally-digital-out-for-galaxy-siii#post_8462693
 
. RSA Predator (USB DAC/amp):
http://www.raysamuelsaudio.com/products/predator
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/150#post_8538933
 
. Stoner Acoustics UD100:
http://stoneracoustics.blogspot.fr/
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2452730&st=160&p=54596977&#entry54596977
 
. Syba SD-AUD20101: (optical S/PFIF capable)
http://www.sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1191
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/375#post_8736082
 
. Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp):
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=zh-TW%7Cen&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&u=http://www.tpdz.net/produce.asp%3Fid%3D25&usg=ALkJrhhte1Q6A1NnVWodszs9J4x85vGfDg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28673076&postcount=871
 
. Topping TP30 (USB DAC/amp):
http://news.cnet.com/8300-5_3-0.html?keyword=Topping+TP-30
http://www.androidnz.net/2012/05/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-usb-audio.html
 
. VentureCraft Go-Dap X (USB DAC/amp):
http://venturecraft.jp/gadget_en/index.php
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/315#post_8708233
 
. xDuoo XP-1 (USB DAC/amp):
http://translate.google.fr/translate?hl=fr&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xduoo.com%2Fxduoo%2FProductShow.asp%3FID%3D47
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I also tried with an y usb cable powered by a belkin usb charger, and no success.
I have seen (in the neutron player or winamp) that the time counter is very speed, five time or more than normal speed when I try to reproduce a song.
what is the exact name of dmesg apps, I see -live dsmeg lite- of chainfire is this?
Thanks
 
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Could you provide a dmesg log output in order to know what is going on at the kernel level between the S3 and the hiFace Two?
 
dmesg:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=dmesg
 
 
[size=9pt]1.                                 [/size][size=9pt]0x80    bmAttributes   (Bus-powered Device)[/size]
[size=9pt]2.                                 [/size][size=9pt]0xFA    MaxPower   (500 mA)[/size]
http://pastebin.com/aGiKSQPc
 
The hiFace Two requires 500 mA.
According to the USB spec, the S3 can only provide 100 mA.
So there is a need to connect the hiFace Two to a S3 via a (battery) powered USB hub, which provides the required 500 mA.
 
 
The USB Audio Driver for ALSA of the S3 is able to drive USB Audio Class 2 (UAC2) devices like the hiFace Two.
https://github.com/sgs3/GT-I9300_Kernel/blob/master/sound/usb/card.c#L2
 
2 *   (Tentative) USB Audio Driver for ALSA
 
227 case UAC_VERSION_1: {
 
246 case UAC_VERSION_2: {
 
 
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i've already tested odac with galaxy note 2 
Confirm stock galaxy note 2 work well with the odac :D
 
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Thanks.
 
So far, like the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy S3, the quad-core Exynos powered Galaxy Note 2 can work with the iBasso D12 and the ODAC, and has some issue with the HeadAmp Pico.
 
So, in regard to standard USB audio, the behaviour of the Galaxy Note 2 is likely identical to the behaviour of the Galaxy S3.
 
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so what's the closest thing to the E17 for use with a galaxy s3 AND a pc at the moment? There's a huge list of compatibles which im grateful of but i dont know which are any good :D Needs to be similar form factor to the E17 with battery, both amp and dac in one :)
 
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Add the Nuforce Icon Mobile to the list of DAC's that work with the S3
+ the Icon Mobile has a built in battery and amp,
+ is really small
- The amp is useless and sounds only slightly better than the HPO on the S3.
 
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so what's the closest thing to the E17 for use with a galaxy s3 AND a pc at the moment? There's a huge list of compatibles which im grateful of but i dont know which are any good :D Needs to be similar form factor to the E17 with battery, both amp and dac in one :)
 
I'm thinking Leckerton's UHA-6S MkII is the closest bet. I'm really hoping the talented Android devs came whip up something by December when my contractends. I was considering the Nexus or SIII, but at this point I might yet end up with a Chinese phone.
 
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I would also say the Leckerton is probably the closest. I'm just waiting for confirmationit wworks on International S3s before I pull the trigger on one to use with my Note 2.
 
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Topping D1 Mark 2 (USB DAC/amp) vs FiiO E17 vs Audinst HUD-Mini soon:
http://www.facebook.com/headfonia
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28673076&postcount=871
 
"I think we have a new contender for the $100 USB Dac/Amp!"
 
"Anyway a short comparison to the E10 reveals that the D1 Mk2 is: more spacious by quite a margin. So spacious that I think the Fiio E17 probably will lose on that department as well. The soundstage image is also superior than the E10. Less boomy bass than the E10, but still smooth analog sound with good bass body. Slightly more high treble presence on the Mk2. The biggest surprise is that I was able to use it both with IEMs like the Vsonic Gr07 Mk2 AND big orthos like the Hifiman HE-400!!!! And it drove the Hifiman HE-400 surprisingly well! WOOOHOOOO I'm excited."
 
"I don't think the D1 is quite HUD-MX1 level (DAC quality) but to the HUD-Mini it should be comparable. Amplifier section, the D1 is more powerful than either Audinsts though."
 
"I am getting a unit for a review. I can tell you I like the Topping a lot, but I won't say more until I have all three E17, D1 Mk2 and HUD-Mini for comparison."
 
"We'll review it soon"
 
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I'm thinking Leckerton's UHA-6S MkII is the closest bet. I'm really hoping the talented Android devs came whip up something by December when my contractends. I was considering the Nexus or SIII, but at this point I might yet end up with a Chinese phone.
 
Hmm i had already eyed up the leckerton but its also a huge amount more money, and prices seem fixed as AFAIK you can only buy direct from him? :frowning2:
 
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Stock 4.04 Galaxy s3 + Odac confirmed works perfect!

What phone volume do you use?
 
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Hi guys, i have a nexus 7 and using custom 'Trinity' Kernel. I updated my asound.conf file and ive gotten an Ibasso D2 Boa. I tried booting the 7 with the Boa plugged in but i get a flickering 'link' light and no sound via the Boa.. could it be a cable issue? im using a OTG USB cable that i know works with usb memory sticks.. and im using the micro usb cable that came with my sansa clip.. could it be the cable? cheers, mick
 
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im pretty sure the sansa clip cable is a USB 'B' cable... could that be the issue?  
Hi guys, i have a nexus 7 and using custom 'Trinity' Kernel. I updated my asound.conf file and ive gotten an Ibasso D2 Boa. I tried booting the 7 with the Boa plugged in but i get a flickering 'link' light and no sound via the Boa.. could it be a cable issue? im using a OTG USB cable that i know works with usb memory sticks.. and im using the micro usb cable that came with my sansa clip.. could it be the cable? cheers, mick
 
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Anyone know if the asus xonar u3 will pass optical outfrom the s3?
 
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