Amp that helps with the midrange?

Aug 24, 2005 at 11:38 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 18

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At the moment I can't afford a home amp but hopefully in the near future. So I am on a little research trip. I hope you can help me narrow it down to some devices.

I want to combine the amp with my Ultrasone Proline 750. While I am very satisfied with these cans and they have their strengths in bass and detail they have their problems with the midrange (esp. female vocals and string instruments - as pointed out by wakked1).

If I can choose I would:
- not choose a tube amp
- like to spend less than 1000$
- a DAC would be a plus (not a must)

Maybe it's stupid to assume an amp can help with the midrange. But their should be amps that sound better combined with the PL750 than others.

Any recommendations?
Thanks Cris
 
Aug 24, 2005 at 5:06 PM Post #2 of 18
headroom makes the micro line, seperate amp and dac but total package is $600. they also make the desktop line, which combines the amp and dac into one package for $850 base price, but can be upgraded to an even $1000 easily. as far as i can tell with my brand new micro amp, the mids are helped a lot with my beyer dt660's and the highs are taimed to a much more reasonable level.

www.headphone.com and go into the amps section.
 
Aug 24, 2005 at 7:31 PM Post #3 of 18
Midrange is definately one of headroom's strong suits. I would go as far as to say that I prefer their midrange to all other solid states that I've heard.
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Aug 25, 2005 at 5:29 AM Post #5 of 18
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Originally Posted by fr4c
I find the Gilmore Lite to push the mids on my HD650's.


The Lite is the amp I would suggest also... Do you need portability?
 
Aug 25, 2005 at 5:51 AM Post #6 of 18
cris,

One of the reason I moved from Gilmore amp to the Naim Headline 2 is its midrange performance.

The latter sounds so much more natural than most solid state amps I have heard.
Headline 2 and iSupply or NAPSC external power supplies should be had for less than a grand.

When you have a chance, give it a try.
 
Aug 25, 2005 at 6:34 AM Post #7 of 18
I really liked the OBH-11SE, but they don't make them any more. See if you can find a used one. Not recommending the current line, as they've redesigned it, and I haven't heard it.

Too bad you said "no tubes", otherwise I'd recommend the X-CANs...
 
Aug 25, 2005 at 7:06 AM Post #8 of 18
Thanks for all your replies so far. I appreciate your help.

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Originally Posted by patrox89
headroom makes the micro line, ... as far as i can tell with my brand new micro amp, the mids are helped a lot with my beyer dt660's


Even if I had to ship it to Europe an interessting choice. But from what I have heard is the DT660 an excellent phone for the midrange - so I am suspicious that the amp has a hard job to do (in your case).

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Originally Posted by YngwieJMalmsteen
Midrange is definately one of headroom's strong suits. I would go as far as to say that I prefer their midrange to all other solid states that I've heard.


Thanks too, what cans did/do you use?

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Originally Posted by fr4c
I find the Gilmore Lite to push the mids on my HD650's.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gpalmer
The Lite is the amp I would suggest also... Do you need portability?


Thanks for that suggestion. No I don't need portability. But I would prefer an amp that I can take to work with my backpack (let's say once a week) - oh this is some kind of portability
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. (But it is only a nice to have.)

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Originally Posted by kuma
One of the reason I moved from Gilmore amp to the Naim Headline 2 is its midrange performance.


This is what I was afraid of
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a different opinion like fr4c and gpalmer. Or is this not a contradiction?

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Originally Posted by Dusty Chalk
Too bad you said "no tubes", otherwise I'd recommend the X-CANs...


Well I am a little bit put off by the need of getting replacement tubes (effort and costs).
 
Aug 25, 2005 at 8:22 AM Post #10 of 18
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Originally Posted by dizza
The Lite might take a while to ship though. I ordered mine last month and still haven't received it.


On the order page it says 21 days lead time. Thanks for the info.
 
Aug 25, 2005 at 9:09 AM Post #11 of 18
This is a real easy recommendation:

Made in Germany.

Lehmann Black Cube linear: Class A output with no opamps in the output stage and no negative global feedback and an unequaled power supply.

Used by Sennheiser in show demos.

Midrange as clear as can be - as are the highs and lows. Should easily get for 700 Euros or less if you have any discounts available oin Europe.
 
Aug 25, 2005 at 9:28 AM Post #12 of 18
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Originally Posted by drarthurwells
...
Made in Germany.
Lehmann Black Cube linear: Class A output with no opamps in the output stage and no negative global feedback and an unequaled power supply.
...



I like recommendations from European countries - they should be easier to get for me.
Must search for reviews now...
 
Aug 26, 2005 at 7:02 AM Post #13 of 18
Well, that was easy. I thought I would get either too many recommendations or no replies.

So are there any other midrange strong amps I should consider?
So far we got:
- headroom, micro line
- Gilmore Lite
- Naim Headline 2
- OBH-11SE
- Lehmann Black Cube linear

Thanks
Cris
 
Aug 26, 2005 at 7:59 AM Post #14 of 18
I'm gonna say the M³ again, because with the right opamps for the occasion (I think 8065s might be right for this) I think it has a very strong midrange.
 
Aug 26, 2005 at 8:02 AM Post #15 of 18
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Originally Posted by Jazper
I'm gonna say the M³ again, because with the right opamps for the occasion (I think 8065s might be right for this) I think it has a very strong midrange.


Hi Jazper, how does the 8065's compare to either the 8610 or 627 in the M3, since I was under the impression that the later two were held in higher regard as they are more 'refined'?
 

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