[KevinWolff]

Really? What would u suggest? i got it because it was used in both 6moons and avguide reviews. i'm a tube noob. 

 
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I would have left the Shuguang tube behind.  

 

 

[Wedge]

I generally prefer NOS tubes.  A NOS Sylvania can be had for less than the Treasure and IMO sounds better.  Mullard ECC32 is probably about as good as it gets.

 

[KevinWolff]

i"ve head the mullard mentioned again and again. I will check it out right after I do some tubes 101 research. Sadly, I don't yet even know what NOS means yet. 
 
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I generally prefer NOS tubes.  A NOS Sylvania can be had for less than the Treasure and IMO sounds better.  Mullard ECC32 is probably about as good as it gets.

 

 

[mhamel]

Kevin,
 
  NOS stands for New Old Stock - basically vintage tubes that are still new in the box and test as such.
 
     -Mike
 
 
 
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i"ve head the mullard mentioned again and again. I will check it out right after I do some tubes 101 research. Sadly, I don't yet even know what NOS means yet. 
 


 

 

 

[Wedge]

NOS mean New Old Stock, also used tubes work well too.  There are a lot of good old stock tubes out there, some can be had on the cheap, others can be had by selling your soul or child's soul, sellers don't seem too particular as to whose soul they are receiving.  I would also say check out Tung-Sol Black Glass Round Plate (TSRP), ECC33s sound good as well, Marconi Osram B65s cost a fortune but sound phenomenal, RCA 5692s if your looking for a slightly more lush sound than say TSRP, I also love the Fivre 6SN7GT (I'm told these are very rare).

 

[WyldRage]

Just adding my five cents: the Cavalli Audio EHHA is very good with the LCD-2. My other main amplifier, the Hagerman Castanet, is not: it lacks the power to give a detailed sound.

 

[KevinWolff]

I think i'm gonna sell a soul or 2 and get the mullard from tube world, then start investigating all these others. i'm psyched to start rolling. Thanks for the info. I also canceled the Shuguang. 
 
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NOS mean New Old Stock, also used tubes work well too.  There are a lot of good old stock tubes out there, some can be had on the cheap, others can be had by selling your soul or child's soul, sellers don't seem too particular as to whose soul they are receiving.  I would also say check out Tung-Sol Black Glass Round Plate (TSRP), ECC33s sound good as well, Marconi Osram B65s cost a fortune but sound phenomenal, RCA 5692s if your looking for a slightly more lush sound than say TSRP, I also love the Fivre 6SN7GT (I'm told these are very rare).

 

 

[TruBrew]

I just finished reading through this thread for I think the second time. I am only more confused now. My DAC is a Reference 7. I need to read some more about it, but I have the impression it is not very musical. Due to that I am leaning towards a tube amp, but haven't ruled out SS. I plan to build a serious STAX rig, and don't want to spend all my money on this setup. I can't see the LCD-2 being my only pair of ortho/dynamic I ever own, so I want an all around good amp, so I can try and avoid buying another in the future.
 
That rules out the Decware. If I could guarantee myself the LCD-2 would be my only non STAX headphone, I would buy it. I can spend up to $3000, but I would like to keep it in the $1,000-$2,000 range. I was considering the RSA Apache, but think I will cut that out, just because I don't think I want to spend that much. I don't want to deal with a builder for a Beta 22, so that is out. For SS I am thinking Phoenix, or GS-X. The GS-X has gone up in price from what I read it used to be, and almost no one owns one, which I feel like says something.
 
That leaves me with The P/V, WA6SE, and WA22 for tubes. I haven't read much about how well the P/V work with other cans, so I would have to do some research on that before buying it. If I spend $3,000+ on this amp, I will probably wonder why I did not just by a BHSE, which I will eventually buy anyway. I hate options. 

 

[dannie01]

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I generally prefer NOS tubes.  A NOS Sylvania can be had for less than the Treasure and IMO sounds better.  Mullard ECC32 is probably about as good as it gets.

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NOS mean New Old Stock, also used tubes work well too.  There are a lot of good old stock tubes out there, some can be had on the cheap, others can be had by selling your soul or child's soul, sellers don't seem too particular as to whose soul they are receiving.  I would also say check out Tung-Sol Black Glass Round Plate (TSRP), ECC33s sound good as well, Marconi Osram B65s cost a fortune but sound phenomenal, RCA 5692s if your looking for a slightly more lush sound than say TSRP, I also love the Fivre 6SN7GT (I'm told these are very rare).

Well said, Wedge and can't agree more.
 

 

[Wedge]

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That leaves me with The P/V, WA6SE, and WA22 for tubes. I haven't read much about how well the P/V work with other cans, so I would have to do some research on that before buying it. If I spend $3,000+ on this amp, I will probably wonder why I did not just by a BHSE, which I will eventually buy anyway. I hate options. 

The P/V to me sounds great with other cans on it.  I listened to the K701, LCD-2, HE-6, Ed. 10, and HD-650.  I don't like the Ed.10s but it sounded as good on that amp as it did any of my others. Mostly just didn't like the phones.  It works well with a lot of cans because it is quite a transparent/neutral amp.  If you want to hear it, I would suggest giving Todd a call and asking him if has a loaner for you to borrow and listen to.
 

 

[Wedge]

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Well said, Wedge and can't agree more.
 

Thanks, Dannie01.  How are the WA-5LE and LCD-2 working with your ECC32s?
 

 

[n3rdling]

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I just finished reading through this thread for I think the second time. I am only more confused now. My DAC is a Reference 7. I need to read some more about it, but I have the impression it is not very musical. Due to that I am leaning towards a tube amp, but haven't ruled out SS. I plan to build a serious STAX rig, and don't want to spend all my money on this setup. I can't see the LCD-2 being my only pair of ortho/dynamic I ever own, so I want an all around good amp, so I can try and avoid buying another in the future.
 
That rules out the Decware. If I could guarantee myself the LCD-2 would be my only non STAX headphone, I would buy it. I can spend up to $3000, but I would like to keep it in the $1,000-$2,000 range. I was considering the RSA Apache, but think I will cut that out, just because I don't think I want to spend that much. I don't want to deal with a builder for a Beta 22, so that is out. For SS I am thinking Phoenix, or GS-X. The GS-X has gone up in price from what I read it used to be, and almost no one owns one, which I feel like says something.
 
That leaves me with The P/V, WA6SE, and WA22 for tubes. I haven't read much about how well the P/V work with other cans, so I would have to do some research on that before buying it. If I spend $3,000+ on this amp, I will probably wonder why I did not just by a BHSE, which I will eventually buy anyway. I hate options. 

 

I'd expect the GSX to outperform the other amps but I've never heard the PV.  I've never really been thrilled with any of the Woo offerings.  If you are able to find an already built B22 or Dynahi on the FS forums I'd definitely consider those the top amps for orthos though.

 

[TruBrew]

Thanks. I have always thought the Woo amps might be overpriced, but they are so popular. I guess it is a little like the Burson, which I have also never heard. The GSX just baffles me. How have so few people owned/heard that particular amp. It seems compelling, but if it was as good as it seems like it should be, Why do more people not own them. Sure it is expensive, but so are so many other amps that are popular around here. I just got in touch with someone to possibly build be a B22. I am waiting to find out what that will run me. I have not heard of the Dynahi, but from a quick search it looks like another DIY amp.
 
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I'd expect the GSX to outperform the other amps but I've never heard the PV.  I've never really been thrilled with any of the Woo offerings.  If you are able to find an already built B22 or Dynahi on the FS forums I'd definitely consider those the top amps for orthos though.

 

 

[fra107]

Hi guys, i sold my Burson HA-160, and waiting my 4 boards Beta 22 is ready (by QES Labs) i'm using a Musical Fidelity X-can V3 (diy toroidal PSU)...

...well, is it possible that it drive my LCD-2 good or my ears are dead?



It's lacking a bit in dynamic, but the sound is not bad, someone tried X-Can V3/LCD-2?

 

[dannie01]

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Thanks, Dannie01.  How are the WA-5LE and LCD-2 working with your ECC32s?
 

The combo sounded wonderful.
 
I'm now trying to persuade my friend to buy my WA5LE by installment so I can order a new WA5 from Jack to drive both headphones and speakers.

 But the most critical issue to my friend are those tubes for the WA5LE, if he goes for the same combo as mine, they will cost almost the same price for a brand new WA5LE that make him struggling.