[Matthew-Spaltro]

were do you stand?

 

[DanG]

Keep this civil. If it gets out of hand, I'm closing this thread. I will not get involved in the debate.

 

[Braver]

afirmative action? whats that?

 

[kerelybonto]

Braver, it's an American thing. Affirmative action is policy of preferences for minorities, mostly in hiring and in selection to universities that's been in place in certain areas since, what?, the sixties. It's meant to counter social prejudices that reduce opportunities for minorities.

kerely

 

[Mr.PD]

Affirmative action was quite necessary early on. I think that like all good things, it has been abused and overused. I do believe that the USA is less racist/sexist now than in the 60's and 70's.

 

[zowie]

This poll is discriminatory! It only let me vote once!!!!

 

[akar]

A headphone forum is an odd place to post such a poll.

This is going to get ugly.

 

[Old Pa]

DanG: We can't discuss affirmative action in criminal situations? Only in civil ones? That's no fun!

 

[DanG]

LOL, Old Pa. Second time you've made me laugh today!

Akar: my own personal position is that political and religious debates are best left off Head-Fi -- they add nothing to the community here, a community of headphone-lovers. But the mods as a whole have chosen to allow this sort of debate, as long as it doesn't get out of hand. We'll be watching for that.

 

[Old Pa]

Whatdoyawant? It's a Spaltro thread!?!

 

[Matthew-Spaltro]

Quote:

Originally posted by Old Pa Whatdoyawant? It's a Spaltro thread!?!

 

[mikeg]

I think that peoples' view of AA is determined by "whose ox is gored." As for most confrontational issues (e.g., AA and abortion), I'm happy to leave their resolution up to the courts, and especially to the Supreme Court. Using the judicial process prevents social conflict and social unrest. So, leaving it up to the courts is where I stand.

 

[zowie]

Quote:

Originally posted by mikeg I think that peoples' view of AA is determined by "whose ox is gored." As for most confrontational issues (e.g., AA and abortion), I'm happy to leave their resolution up to the courts, and especially to the Supreme Court. Using the judicial process prevents social conflict and social unrest. So, leaving it up to the courts is where I stand.

I'm not.

1. These issues should be determined by an elected government.

2. By doing the opposite, the courts allow a single individual or group to hold up for years something that a vast majority wants and elected representatives have enacted. In a certain respect, this is one of the greatest thing about the U.S., providing the ability to overturn discriminatory laws for example. But over the last 25 years, it's too often been used for anti-democratic purposes by groups that want to circumvent political process.

 

[john_jcb]

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr.PD I do believe that the USA is less racist/sexist now than in the 60's and 70's.

I wonder if things are really that different or if the racist/sexist of years gone by has become more clever. Their thoughts and actions are the same but they know all the politically correct phrases to use. Sometimes the more things seem to change the more they remain the same.

 

[zowie]

Quote:

Originally posted by john_jcb Their thoughts and actions are the same but they know all the politically correct phrases to use.

People are entitled to think whatever they want, and even if you disagree with that, you still can't legislate away people's opinions. It's the actions that are the issue.