Abyss Diana IMPRESSIONS Thread.

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  1. ufospls2
    Hey Guys,

    As the Diana thread has been closed, and is full of noise and lacks content for the most part. I thought we should maybe have an IMPRESSIONS thread for the Diana, for those who are interested in actually purchasing a pair.

    Mods: If you feel this thread is unnecessary please just delete it.

    I have been trying to find pictures of Diana in full final production dress (including pads) and there doesn't seem to be many yet. A few are below.

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    And of course, an unboxing video.




    And a photo of all three colours. Note, this photo does not appear to feature the finished production pads. They look like an earlier fully perforated model. (Joe can correct me on this if need be.)

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    Credit goes to "Beagle" for the below impressions. I hope we can continue to amass similar impressions as time goes on, be they positive or negative.

    I used to get some enjoyment out of composing a review, but now I hate the prospect of foisting my tastes and opinions on others who would only benefit it they shared the same likes as me. And I certainly never thought I would ever be doing a review of the Abyss Diana. If you recall, I kind of cast a cynical and jaundiced eye at them when they first appeared. To my eyes, they looked like a cheap dollar store or gimmicky Apple store affair, very insubstantial...especially for the asking price of $2999. Since they appeared to be geared toward portable use, I saw them as an on-ear size, making them even more insignificant looking in my mind. We also have a tendency to think 'plastic' in pictures of modern gadgets.

    As time went on, I grew more curious. At that price, they had to offer something. There were few if any comments on them, and one particular brief summation was very nasty towards them (which as it turns out, is so far off the mark as to be not taken seriously at all). But further down the road there were positive words from TAS, HiFi+ and a couple of others. I became more curious....to the point where I decided I needed to hear these. And the only way for me to hear them (other than traipsing around to shows that I didn't have time to do) was to order a pair, which I did in October.

    After a few delays (Abyss updated the earpads for a better fit) and a nerve-wracking debacle with the Canadian delivery courier, the Diana arrived.

    The box was much smaller than I was expecting, but I was very happy that it was what it was....which was simple. I hate getting a new pair of headphones and having to open a large box, then a sub-box, then numerous trap door flaps, foam et al to get to the actual item. Who needs it? The Diana box is just the right size, with an outside cardboard sleeve. The headphones come in a nice canvas carrying bag, and that's it. Diana is there, all cabled up, ready for action. At first, you feel you deserve more for your cash outlay, but again, you got what you really need, no more no less.

    The feel of the Diana as I took her out of the box (sounds creepy, no?) was one of a solid build from solid materials, which it is. As I took them out of the bag, one of the earpads fell off, then the other (maybe I trembling with excitement?). I put the pads back on, while noticing that they adhere by way of a small magnetic force onto four metal pins. I put the phones on my head and the fit was not secure and felt odd...I'm already fighting with Diana. But there is an orientation...the pads are thicker on the bottom and one of the sides, so, because they had fallen off, I had to figure out the proper orientation on my own. The seam on the pads should be adjacent to where the cable fits in to the earcups (at least that's how it fits and feels best for me).

    So....the first thing I do when I get a new set of phones is to run frequency sweep tone (from 20Hz to around 200Hz) on repeat, to shake down the diaphragms (like a pitcher warming up in the bullpen). Within a few seconds, I predicted that the Diana would have the best bass of any headphone I'd ever used....it sounded basically flat throughout the sweep. The 20Hz tone was pretty much the same level as the 200Hz.

    On to the sound. I could sum up the Diana sound in two words....tidy and precise. Also fast, clear, unetched. And the imaging and soundstage is first-rate. The drivers sound perfectly matched. Only well-matched drivers will give you clearly defined images and the correct reproduction of the recordings soundstage (the soundstage is in the recording; at best, a headphone can only provide a proper reproduction of that). Diana will place things above, in front of, or outside the head if the recording tells her to.

    The "game-changing" (I hate this term) thing for me was the bass (as I could foretell on the initial test). Bass notes were clean and tight, dynamic, jumping out at times, and extending way down (you can almost "see" it go down due to the clarity). They emerged from a clean black background, out of pure clean air as opposed to a foggy smog-like murk that exists on a lot of headphones. You can follow the individual notes in a line without them overlapping each other....there exists space between them. No overhang; think of the bass notes as actors on a stage during a play. When it is their turn, they should be there. Otherwise, they should exit the stage. Some headphones (due to resonances and distortions) have the bass notes hanging around the back of the stage or off to the sides, still visible. This clarity and precision sometimes makes you think the Diana is coming across as thin, or lacking warmth. But then you suddenly hear the depth of an organ as it enters the picture and all is as it should be. There is also the illusion that bass is 'travelling towards you' like when you listen to loudspeakers.

    About the midrange and treble, I've not much to say. What you hear depends on the recording. All I can really do is express gratitude for the lack of colorations and distortions, the absence of obvious dips, spikes, glare when listening to well-engineered recordings. Really, I'm sort of lost for words. Hard to describe a characteristic that has no character. I can usually only describe problems I hear in these areas of the spectrum, such as suckout, sibilance exaggeration, peakiness, rolloff, honkiness...all of which the Diana does not give even a hint of. So I am left with the potential of hearing proper timbre of voices and instruments, and if the recording provides that, the Diana lets it through basically intact. Everything sounds tonally natural for the most part, effortless, flowing naturally, not syrupy or sugar-coated, not smoothed over. It's a nice big crunchy healthy salad, not a Big Mac.

    This became almost a source of frustration during the first few days, when the Diana would sound wonderful on some things, and not so great on others. The first reaction is that I began to wonder if I realy like this headphone or not, then I eventually realize that it is the messenger delivering what it is being fed. The Diana will not make everything sound wonderful and hifi-like, but it will keep the wonderful sounding wonderful. Everything is open and clear, and the top end seems to extend into the stratosphere with those great recordings.

    I just want to expand a bit more on some of the design factors I think are responsible for Diana's lack of colorations and portrayal of realism, besides those of the solid aluminum structure.

    The fit is, like the sound, tidy and precise. For some, when you put them on they will feel stiff, hard and unwieldy. The pads will feel hard and it seems like you are not getting a proper fit. It's a matter of adjustment and getting used to a 'non-seductive' comfort. Some headphones are so comfortable (right off the bat) that they can psychologically make you think the sound is just as warm and relaxed as the fit. Rather like a smooth-talking salesperson who reels you in with promises but doesn't really have what you want to buy. The Diana rests on the head and over the ears with minimum fuss, and you come to "know" and get used to it. Once the pads begin to soften a bit (after a couple of days), it locks in. Another positive...there is no sweet spot you have to find each time you put them on; the sound stays put. There is no side-to-side or up-and-down swivel option for positioning of the earcups but due to the pad design, one is not needed, not for me anyway. Some will be aghast at the lack of flexibility in the positioning of the earcups (especialy for a $3000 headphone) but the design was obviously intentional in order to have as few moving parts as possible, thus keeping rigidity at a maximum and potential vibrations and rattles to a minimum. It was a case of how to fit an amazing set of drivers with a housing that would do no harm.

    Another crucial design success is the headband and it's total lack of resonance; as Keith Howard of HiFi News always points out in his reviews, a noisy headband assembly can add much coloration to the sound of a headphone. And extreme example of this (in my experience) was the Audio Technica ATH W5000...tap that metal rod while wearing them and it would ring like a bell. Most other headphones will, at the very least, transfer vibration from the headband to the earcups when you tap on it. When you tap the top of the Diana, you hear a the sound of your finger hitting the headband only and it stops right away...it does not ring and travel to your ears.

    One more very pleasant surprise was the minimal leakage, considering this is an open-backed planar headphone, which usually leak sound out the back like the Titanic leaked water (the AKG K812 was the worst in this aspect). To put in perspective, the Diana leaks less than the HiFiman 400i, 560, the HD800, HD700, Audeze LCD-X or EL8 open-back. For the record, I listen at low to moderate levels so YMMV.

    So the overall sonic 'picture' I 'see' with the Diana is one of clarity, unfettered openness, natural dynamics, total freedom from compression and romanticizing of the sound, quick, precise and vibrant. And now that I actually have the headphones in my hands, the look and feel is one of class and sophistication. OK, I've gone from two words to over ten, but maybe I could truly describe Diana in one word....honest. Expensive, but best money I ever spent on headphones because I finally got 'better' rather than 'just different'.



    PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD ON TOPIC, AND AVOID POINTLESS BICKERING. LETS KEEP THIS CONTENT HEAVY FOR THOSE WHO ARE ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN PURCHASING DIANA OR HAVE ACTUALLY HEARD HER. THANK YOU.
     
    Last edited: Jan 1, 2018
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  2. Joe Skubinski
    Sounds like a plan, new thread for the New Year...
     
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  3. klaimzlgd
    patiently collecting money for Diana ;-;
     
  4. Beagle
    Still love the DIANA. In fact, I love them more now than when I did the review.
     
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  5. Joe Skubinski
    ABYSS Headphones We engineer, machine, and build our headphones from scratch in New York, USA. Stay updated on ABYSS Headphones at their sponsor page on Head-Fi.
     
    https://www.facebook.com/AbyssHeadphones https://twitter.com/AbyssHeadphones https://www.instagram.com/abyssheadphones/ http://www.abyss-headphones.com/ info@Abyss-Headphones.com
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  6. Beagle
    Cool!
     
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  7. anorphirith
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    I've listened to them yesterday, they sound amazing, super fast, very clear, very well built, a tiny Goliath.
    They are fairly hard to drive, so make sure you have a good source.
    As for the price; I think the build quality, sound and innovation could justify it.
     
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  8. Rayzilla
    How do you like those skull speakers They make for a cool headphone stand too!
     
  9. anorphirith
    haha they were actually plugged in to a Moon 230HAD. I find the skull amp thingy of very poor taste and tacky
     
  10. anorphirith
    I just went back to the store today and did a more throughout listening,
    I compared them with Focal clear, LCD-MX4, LCD-X, Mr. Speaker Aeon Flow open, and Ether C flow open.
    I can confirm they sound the best, so very transparent and true. The voice reproduction is my favorite part of it.
    They also look the best in my opinion.
    On the minus is that the bass was not as enveloping as any of the Audeze's headphones. And that they WILL need a portable amp to be used on the go.
    Even though I think they might be worth the price, I would have loved for these to be 2K, I would have bought them in a heartbeat
     
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  11. Fegefeuer
    Listened to them today at the Munich High End Show and these headphones were the star of all headphones for me that I could listen to.

    Meet conditions or not, bass was very well defined, tight, reaching to the bottom. A controlled beast that could surprise and startle you, very dynamic in general, nothing grey or greyish in contrast and I found no glare or unrefined, brittle treble. All this in such a "small" headphone. This really caught me offguard. Oh, and the mids were to die for. No dullness, no shoutyness, simply clear and with fervor.

    They are also built like a tank, very sturdy with magnetic pads, easy to interchange/replace. Why don't other companies follow this model? What's up with glueing pads, adhesive rings or strange clipping systems?

    The entire Abyss team was very friendly and helpful and surely proud of their work. Was nice meeting you guys.


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    Last edited: May 12, 2018
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  12. Joe Skubinski
    ABYSS Headphones We engineer, machine, and build our headphones from scratch in New York, USA. Stay updated on ABYSS Headphones at their sponsor page on Head-Fi.
     
    https://www.facebook.com/AbyssHeadphones https://twitter.com/AbyssHeadphones https://www.instagram.com/abyssheadphones/ http://www.abyss-headphones.com/ info@Abyss-Headphones.com
  13. Joe Skubinski
    ABYSS Headphones We engineer, machine, and build our headphones from scratch in New York, USA. Stay updated on ABYSS Headphones at their sponsor page on Head-Fi.
     
    https://www.facebook.com/AbyssHeadphones https://twitter.com/AbyssHeadphones https://www.instagram.com/abyssheadphones/ http://www.abyss-headphones.com/ info@Abyss-Headphones.com
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  14. DSD Roy
    I've read the entire review these sound very promising!! As long as the review is truly honest, these may truly be the world's best headphones!!
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2018
  15. anorphirith
    they are pretty amazing
     
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