About to build the ultimate headphone setup
Aug 14, 2007 at 12:50 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 23

ironeisnna

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Well I am one step from ordering a modified Supratek Sauvignon http://www.supratek.biz/preamp.htm with headphone output at 300 ohm for matching my hd650. I will combine it with a stello DAC 220 MKII. I am using equinox cable for my headphones. Trully world class system.. The whole system price will be around 6000 dollars... I am so excited... I just wanted to share my excitment with you !!!
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Aug 14, 2007 at 12:57 AM Post #2 of 23
Oh man, 6000 dollars??

Interesting looking amp.
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 1:08 AM Post #3 of 23
I know its crazy... The matter is that I try to find the absolute sound. I bet a system like that will produce an overall better sound than the one of electrostatics (e.g. omega 2). I haven't heard the orpheous system but I believe, with a descent amplification, it will be possible the senns to beat a system with omega 2 and SR 007, at least marginally.
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 1:19 AM Post #4 of 23
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I know its crazy... The matter is that I try to find the absolute sound. I bet a system like that will produce an overall better sound than the one of electrostatics (e.g. omega 2). I haven't heard the orpheous system but I believe, with a descent amplification, it will be possible the senns to beat a system with omega 2 and SR 007, at least marginally.


You won't know till you hear them back to back :wink: Don't diss a headphone that starts out at $1500 and scales like mad also...

I really would like to see what you can work with HD650 there, that is a fairly unique system.
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 2:50 AM Post #6 of 23
People say the O2s scale like mad but I have yet to hear an amp where they reach said level. In fact Spritzer and Carl believe (I think) that such an amp has not yet been built anywhere. I thinkkk best you can do with current in existence amps is ES-1? Or maybe some speaker amp with the Illusion box? Ohwell, I'd like to hear an O2 through my ES-1 and see how it sounds.

The HD650s definitely scale like mad though ;p Or perhaps I should say HD600s? I think its a toss up due to taste but I think it is easier for the HD650s to become boomy with the wrong sort of amplification.

I kindaaa question whether or not HD650s can reach their pinnacle sound with a tubed amp. Of course that's just my take on the HD650 sound and what perfection sounds like ;p Of course since apparently a tube amp cano sund like a solid state amp and vice version definitely seems possible.


Maybe Ironeisnna lives close because I'd definitely be interested in checking out that amp when its done ;p
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 2:58 AM Post #7 of 23
From everything I've read from knowledgeable headphone enthusiasts a balanced HD650 rig with the right amplification could be the ultimate in listening experiences. I say this based on some things Hirsch and a few other members have said. These guys have heard just about everything made and I respect their judgment, experience and knowledge. I don’t think a single ended rig can come close to what they were describing. But it would probably require a fully balanced system.

Otherwise it’s my rig.


Mitch
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 3:04 AM Post #8 of 23
Yeah fully balanced in my experience is a necessity for HD650s but it definitely can sound amazing. It can compete with anything under the 2k headphone range except for perhaps the HP1000/he60/O2 properly amped... the Edition 9 is impressive but I am not really convinced that it will scale as well. L3K is probably a bit beyond the HD650s reach depending on your tastes.
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 3:17 AM Post #9 of 23
interesting looking amp. think it will sound better than say a Cary 300SEI.
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 7:08 AM Post #10 of 23
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Originally Posted by ironeisnna /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well I am one step from ordering a modified Supratek Sauvignon http://www.supratek.biz/preamp.htm with headphone output at 300 ohm for matching my hd650. I will combine it with a stello DAC 220 MKII. I am using equinox cable for my headphones. Trully world class system.. The whole system price will be around 6000 dollars... I am so excited... I just wanted to share my excitment with you !!!
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Wow
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Let us know how you like them. Also post some pics
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. Have fun with your new toys when you get them.
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 7:13 AM Post #11 of 23
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Originally Posted by ironeisnna /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well I am one step from ordering a modified Supratek Sauvignon http://www.supratek.biz/preamp.htm with headphone output at 300 ohm for matching my hd650. I will combine it with a stello DAC 220 MKII. I am using equinox cable for my headphones. Trully world class system.. The whole system price will be around 6000 dollars... I am so excited... I just wanted to share my excitment with you !!!
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wow!
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 7:14 AM Post #12 of 23
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Well if you are trying to find the best sound, what are you using for a source? If computer driven, check out this site: http://www.empiricalaudio.com/

Check out computer audio section.



Or jusy get a Benchmark DAC1...it solves almost all digital problems without the need for $1500 cables.
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 7:24 AM Post #13 of 23
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Well if you are trying to find the best sound, what are you using for a source? If computer driven, check out this site: http://www.empiricalaudio.com/

Check out computer audio section.




Thanks for the link
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It has loads of information! I am currently using foobar with flac and asio... I really wanted iTunes to have the same sound quality though. It has a marvelous user interface and song organisation. I was thinking of creating a mini player consisting of a mac mini and a 7" fouldable touch screen ( http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Thermaltake-A2...QQcmdZViewItem ) mounted in the rack, running full screen cover flow... Yet again I don't know ... maybe its just my imagination but I think foobar sounds a little better.

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Originally Posted by braillediver /img/forum/go_quote.gif
From everything I've read from knowledgeable headphone enthusiasts a balanced HD650 rig with the right amplification could be the ultimate in listening experiences. I say this based on some things Hirsch and a few other members have said. These guys have heard just about everything made and I respect their judgment, experience and knowledge. I don’t think a single ended rig can come close to what they were describing. But it would probably require a fully balanced system.

Otherwise it’s my rig.


Mitch



I think, when it has to do with tube amps, The better way is the unbalanced one... I would like a slight coloration of the sound (to the warm side).Nothing exceptional... just a sliiiiight one! I dont think that the perfect music system necessary means the most "clean" one. I prefer musicality over clearness. I am also a vinyl fan so you can imagine my tastes
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Aug 14, 2007 at 7:31 AM Post #14 of 23
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Maybe Ironeisnna lives close because I'd definitely be interested in checking out that amp when its done ;p


I live in Lancaster U.K Icarium... If you happen sometime to be near here it will be my pleasure

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Wow
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Let us know how you like them. Also post some pics
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Thanks riceboy
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I ll surelly do!!
 
Aug 14, 2007 at 2:27 PM Post #15 of 23
Wow- “I would like a slight coloration of the sound”? and “I am currently using foobar with flac”

Those statements and “ultimate headphone setup” are mutually exclusive. You’ll never have a world class headphone system using a PC as a source. And a single ended rig will never compete against a balanced rig.

And iTunes (?) I almost spit my coffee out laughing reading that statement. Are you just spending money for the sake of it or do you really want “the ultimate headphone setup”?


Mitch
 

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