A Vote About the Headphone Jack Position of Bluetooth DAC/Amps

For Bluetooth DAC, will you accept putting the headphone jack on the sides to optimize the voloume?

  • A. The headphone jacks are put at the top.

    Votes: 102 80.3%
  • B. The headphone jacks are put on the left and right sides.

    Votes: 25 19.7%

  • Total voters
    127
  • Poll closed .
Jun 16, 2021 at 6:44 AM Thread Starter Post #1 of 42

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This is not an advertisement and it doesn't mean we are going to upgrade the BTR5. Instead, it is just a survey to know your opinions and ideas with the BTR5 as an example.

After the FiiO BTR5 was introduced to the market, it has been popular thanks to its exquisite appearance, excellent sound quality, versatile functions, affordable price and powerful functions, and it is also a star product in the FiiO family in the past two years. However, the battle between the 2.5 and 4.4 balanced ports has come to an end. As the 4.4 became the winner, the BTR5 will definitely feature the 4.4 balanced headphone port in the future.

Since the 4.4 headphone jack is relatively large, we have to reconsider how to achieve it. Basically, there are two solutions. One is a conventional design- to thicken and lengthen the body on the basis of the BTR5, so to accommodate the 4.4. The other is to redesign the layout of the headphone jack- to move the headphone jack from the top to the left and right sides. In this way, we can make better use of the internal space and thus control its volume. Or, it can contain a larger battery under the same volume.

On many occasions, a side-out headphone jack (on the two sides) is less convenient than a straight-out (on the top) one, but it is not a big problem. We are not so sure. So we would like to know how you think.

By the way, the BTR5 is severely out of stock at present. What's worse, we are unable to reach the ESS9218 chip, so that we have to use the ESS9219 in later production, which will significantly increase the cost. As a result, there will probably be a rise in the price.

This is our product plan. If we finally decide to use the 4.4 headphone jack and change other designs, we will probably perform it earlier at the beginning of next year. The project is still under consideration. If you have any ideas and suggestions, please let us know. Thank you so much.

For Bluetooth DAC/Amps, will you accept putting the headphone jack on the sides, so to optimize the volume?

A. The headphone jacks are put at the top.



B. The headphone jacks are put on the left and right sides.
 
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Jun 16, 2021 at 12:33 PM Post #6 of 42

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@FiiO Would it be possible to cram dual ES9038Q2M, 4.4mm, 3.5 mm Jacks, and a battery capable of at least 10 hours of battery life using a balanced connection into a slightly larger chassis?
 
Jun 16, 2021 at 2:28 PM Post #8 of 42

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This is not an advertisement and it doesn't mean we are going to upgrade the BTR5. Instead, it is just a survey to know your opinions and ideas with the BTR5 as an example.

After the FiiO BTR5 was introduced to the market, it has been popular thanks to its exquisite appearance, excellent sound quality, versatile functions, affordable price and powerful functions, and it is also a star product in the FiiO family in the past two years. However, the battle between the 2.5 and 4.4 balanced ports has come to an end. As the 4.4 became the winner, the BTR5 will definitely feature the 4.4 balanced headphone port in the future.

Since the 4.4 headphone jack is relatively large, we have to reconsider how to achieve it. Basically, there are two solutions. One is a conventional design- to thicken and lengthen the body on the basis of the BTR5, so to accommodate the 4.4. The other is to redesign the layout of the headphone jack- to move the headphone jack from the top to the left and right sides. In this way, we can make better use of the internal space and thus control its volume. Or, it can contain a larger battery under the same volume.

On many occasions, a side-out headphone jack (on the two sides) is less convenient than a straight-out (on the top) one, but it is not a big problem. We are not so sure. So we would like to know how you think.

By the way, the BTR5 is severely out of stock at present. What's worse, we are unable to reach the ESS9218 chip, so that we have to use the ESS9219 in later production, which will significantly increase the cost. As a result, there will probably be a rise in the price.

This is our product plan. If we finally decide to use the 4.4 headphone jack and change other designs, we will probably perform it earlier at the beginning of next year. The project is still under consideration. If you have any ideas and suggestions, please let us know. Thank you so much.

For Bluetooth DAC/Amps, will you accept putting the headphone jack on the sides, so to optimize the volume?

A. The headphone jacks are put at the top.



B. The headphone jacks are put on the left and right sides.
I think it's time for a new version and @FiiO can use better DAC chips this time around. Competition is becoming quite fierce around that price point. only Brand value may not be enough to see things through.
 
Jun 16, 2021 at 3:54 PM Post #10 of 42

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If the bottom is not available then side is the best. I don't like the weight if the cable tugging from the top. Also, I would rather have the unit wider rather than longer. The BTR5 is currently a touch too small but not really a problem
 
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Jun 16, 2021 at 7:13 PM Post #12 of 42

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I have had two Bluetooth receivers, one with the jacks on the side, and the other the current BTR5. Neither arrangement guaranteed that I would be able to find a good way to attach it to whatever I was wearing. My choice of where to clip it would change based on whether my shirt was button-down or T, whether it had a chest pocket, where the collar line was, you name it. So sometimes I wished my sideways-facing jacks were vertical, and vice versa.

So I don't actually have that strong a preference for one over the other. But if you keep the jacks on the end, I have a strong preference that you keep the clip separate from the body of the device. Do not take away the ability to reverse whether the jacks are at the top or bottom.
 
Jun 16, 2021 at 9:49 PM Post #14 of 42

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I wouldn’t mind a square device, personally. Thickness, battery life, and topology matter the most imo. The advantage of a square device is that you can put any output on any side, since someone is not likely to want to use multiple outputs simultaneously.

My vote goes to A otherwise.

Edit: It looks to me like the entire device could be around 45mm x 45mm if the battery were horizontal with the same output layout of B (opposing outputs above the battery).
 
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Jun 16, 2021 at 10:46 PM Post #15 of 42

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I think it's time for a new version and @FiiO can use better DAC chips this time around. Competition is becoming quite fierce around that price point. only Brand value may not be enough to see things through.
Thanks for the feedback.

We will also report to the product manger about that.

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