[DingDongMonster]

BTW. If you use SPC on the Aetha. It’s very rich and musical, but the stage is intimate. Try a good silver cable. The dynamics, definition and extensions on both ends goes up. More important, the stage opens up.

AV1 has got Toxic Eddie2 or Silver Widow v3. Another good one and more affordable is Flash Acoustic’s Catalina, a silver gold. Less aggressive and smoother than the Toxic stuff. Zeppelin should have a demo.

I’ll be at Zeppelin tomorrow after lunch.

 

[DingDongMonster]

I just had a go with the FIR Audio RN6. I’ll not bother going into details. It’s not bad. It’s also not great. For the price it should be excellent. The bass is good. The problem is with everything else. Upper mids is very strange. It just jumps at you in a bad way. Treble is mediocre. The people who said it’s got a holographic stage don’t know what a holographic stage is. The cable is a controllable mess.

This is the cable in its natural stage.

This will probably offend FIR fans. The Aetha is a coherent well tuned IEM. My friend is correct. The Aetha is a better IEM. The RN6… I don’t know who it’s tuned for. It’s not for me.

 

[marcOpeth4444]

I just had a go with the FIR Audio RN6. I’ll not bother going into details. It’s not bad. It’s also not great. For the price it should be excellent. The bass is good. The problem is with everything else. Upper mids is very strange. It just jumps at you in a bad way. Treble is mediocre. The people who said it’s got a holographic stage don’t know what a holographic stage is. The cable is a controllable mess.

This is the cable in its natural stage.


This will probably offend FIR fans. The Aetha is a coherent well tuned IEM. My friend is correct. The Aetha is a better IEM. The RN6… I don’t know who it’s tuned for. It’s not for me.

I have both, and like both (000 for aetha, red for Rn6). For Rn6, I don’t find strangeness in the upper mid as fas as I can tell, but mine is custom tho, can you elaborate more?

One thing is that I personally find the Fir universal shape really difficult to fit well (experience from universal Kr5), so the upper mid strangeness could be a fit issue, maybe a resonance peak? I found Rn6 very irritating and sibilant when I tried its universal shape, but no issue at all in custom.

For the cable, I 100% agree. I like the look and the hand feels, it feels premium and quality, but the memory is just too bad. I just use cable from Linum instead, I personally don’t believe in cable changing sound anyway.

 

[DingDongMonster]

I have both, and like both (000 for aetha, red for Rn6). For Rn6, I don’t find strangeness in the upper mid as fas as I can tell, but mine is custom tho, can you elaborate more?

One thing is that I personally find the Fir universal shape really difficult to fit well (experience from universal Kr5), so the upper mid strangeness could be a fit issue, maybe a resonance peak? I found Rn6 very irritating and sibilant when I tried its universal shape, but no issue at all in custom.

For the cable, I 100% agree. I like the look and the hand feels, it feels premium and quality, but the memory is just too bad. I just use cable from Linum instead, I personally don’t believe in cable changing sound anyway.

I used it on a DX260, which is a reference sound. The upper mids is too forward. In your face. The other portions are fine. Makes the whole signature unbalanced. The good bass does make up for it.

I guess I was expecting more at this price point.

 

[marcOpeth4444]

I used it on a DX260, which is a reference sound. The upper mids is too forward. In your face. The other portions are fine. Makes the whole signature unbalanced. The good bass does make up for it.

I guess I was expecting more at this price point.

So it is up to personal preference then. Rn6 is by no means “balanced”, it is extremely coloured if you look at its FR graph. To me, both Rn6 and aehta are really good iems, aehta is my vocal choice (mostly extreme vocal tho), while Rn6 is my day to day choice. I’m no reviewer but these are some of my opinions:

Bass:
Rn6 (I like the implementation of Rn6 more but quantity wise it’s Aehta tho).

Mid:
Aehta (Aehta is an extreme vocal monster, the texture of metal screams is the best I’ve ever heard, make Rn6 kinda featureless.)

High:
Tie, Rn6 (more engaging) / Aehta (more conservative)

Soundstage/imaging:
Rn6 blows Aehta out of the water, but hard to really compare tho, my Rn6 is custom while Aehta is universal (deep insertion with jvc spiral dot). To me, aehta is really clustered, and the instruments close to centre are quite undefined, especially cymbals.

Price wise, yeah, you’re probably right, but let put it this way, the price to performance correlation of iems these days is pretty much gone anyway when you go over the $200-$300 USD price bracket (or even $100, the budget iems are really really good these days), it is up to the manufacturer how much they want to squeeze your money.

Edit: Rn6’s kinetic bass, aehta’s bone conduction, I feel none of them.

 

[marcOpeth4444]

One little complaint to Aür as a first time customer, you guys really need to hire more people. You guys pretty much want Abel working to death given how great Aür is growing. I mean no one would like to turn down the idea of faster build time, isn’t it?

 

[nigel801]

So it is up to personal preference then. Rn6 is by no means “balanced”, it is extremely coloured if you look at its FR graph. To me, both Rn6 and aehta are really good iems, aehta is my vocal choice (mostly extreme vocal tho), while Rn6 is my day to day choice. I’m no reviewer but these are some of my opinions:

Bass:
Rn6 (I like the implementation of Rn6 more but quantity wise it’s Aehta tho).

Mid:
Aehta (Aehta is an extreme vocal monster, the texture of metal screams is the best I’ve ever heard, make Rn6 kinda featureless.)

High:
Tie, Rn6 (more engaging) / Aehta (more conservative)

Soundstage/imaging:
Rn6 blows Aehta out of the water, but hard to really compare tho, my Rn6 is custom while Aehta is universal (deep insertion with jvc spiral dot). To me, aehta is really clustered, and the instruments close to centre are quite undefined, especially cymbals.

Price wise, yeah, you’re probably right, but let put it this way, the price to performance correlation of iems these days is pretty much gone anyway when you go over the $200-$300 USD price bracket (or even $100, the budget iems are really really good these days), it is up to the manufacturer how much they want to squeeze your money.

Edit: Rn6’s kinetic bass, aehta’s bone conduction, I feel none of them.

Nice to hear some feedback from others then usual suspects , I am also not sold on the BC drivers so far whatever research I have done they have no impact or advantage over other drivers like BAs and ESTs.

 

[DingDongMonster]

So it is up to personal preference then. Rn6 is by no means “balanced”, it is extremely coloured if you look at its FR graph. To me, both Rn6 and aehta are really good iems, aehta is my vocal choice (mostly extreme vocal tho), while Rn6 is my day to day choice. I’m no reviewer but these are some of my opinions:

Bass:
Rn6 (I like the implementation of Rn6 more but quantity wise it’s Aehta tho).

Mid:
Aehta (Aehta is an extreme vocal monster, the texture of metal screams is the best I’ve ever heard, make Rn6 kinda featureless.)

High:
Tie, Rn6 (more engaging) / Aehta (more conservative)

Soundstage/imaging:
Rn6 blows Aehta out of the water, but hard to really compare tho, my Rn6 is custom while Aehta is universal (deep insertion with jvc spiral dot). To me, aehta is really clustered, and the instruments close to centre are quite undefined, especially cymbals.

Price wise, yeah, you’re probably right, but let put it this way, the price to performance correlation of iems these days is pretty much gone anyway when you go over the $200-$300 USD price bracket (or even $100, the budget iems are really really good these days), it is up to the manufacturer how much they want to squeeze your money.

Edit: Rn6’s kinetic bass, aehta’s bone conduction, I feel none of them.

RN6's bass quality is good, I have to give it that. When trying something new. I use the DX260 because it's highly technical, wide stage and reference. So it's easy to hear the flaws or strong points. If the IEM has the properties for stage, imaging, and resolution. It will be rendered.

For bass, I use this playlist. Rather than just bom bom bom. It's got a pretty good variety. https://tidal.com/playlist/25d80988-df1e-4e6f-bef8-9467056d2187

Aetha for next level imaging and staging, you need to unlock it with a good silver cable. The problem is there is no good and cheap silver cable. Using SPC on Aetha gives you a rich and lush sound, but the stage while not small, is still on the intimate side. Stick in a good silver, the extension on both ends opens up, the soundstage and imagingalso go up another level.

 

[Yefry]

I must say, that after trying some TOTL, my last purchase was RN6 and it was also disappointing for me, it is not a bad iem by any means but I also perceive its soundstage as relatively small and lack of holographic, in fact, Penon Voltage is a lot Wider and holographic.

RN6 has a good bass and also a lot of depth, but I also notice the upper mids and the voices very in the 'face', it pulls everything forward and it is something I don't like.

Of Odyssey, Omnium, Grand Maestro and RN6, the one I like the least is RN6.

I don't know what Aetha is like, I bought it to see for myself, I haven't kept any of the TOTL mentioned because I feel that none of them have enough value compared to the sale price, even if they are second-hand.

@DingDongMonster

Could you tell me what silver cable you are using with Aetha?

 

[DingDongMonster]

I must say, that after trying some TOTL, my last purchase was RN6 and it was also disappointing for me, it is not a bad iem by any means but I also perceive its soundstage as relatively small and lack of holographic, in fact, Penon Voltage is a lot Wider and holographic.

RN6 has a good bass and also a lot of depth, but I also notice the upper mids and the voices very in the 'face', it pulls everything forward and it is something I don't like.

Of Odyssey, Omnium, Grand Maestro and RN6, the one I like the least is RN6.

I don't know what Aetha is like, I bought it to see for myself, I haven't kept any of the TOTL mentioned because I feel that none of them have enough value compared to the sale price, even if they are second-hand.

@DingDongMonster

Could you tell me what silver cable you are using with Aetha?

I recommend Toxic Silver Widow V3. Mad dynamics and extensions. Everything in spades, can get fatiguing. But if you want an IEM to perform hot. This is the one. Toxic Eddie 2 is a better compromise, in the sense it's got a lot of the high intensity silver signature, but it's doled out more smoothly. Nice mids.

https://toxic-cables.co.uk/product/silver-widow-22-v3-occ-silver-litz-earphone-cable/

https://toxic-cables.co.uk/product/eddie-2/

There is also a Silver Poison which performs pretty well and it's a bit cheaper. I would personally prefer the Eddie 2 as a starter.

https://toxic-cables.co.uk/product/silver-poison-occ-cryo-silver-earphone-cable/

I have the silver widow v3 and the silver poison. I will add an Eddie 2 in the future. There are other brands and better ones. Which of course equals more costly. I recommend Toxic as their stuff is very good and it's got brand recognition. If it turns out I am all hot air and no substance. You can sell it away easily with a very small first owner tax.

You heard the RN6 exactly as I did. Glad I was not hallucinating from too much coffee. LOL

 

[helloh3adfi]

I recommend Toxic Silver Widow V3. Mad dynamics and extensions. Everything in spades, can get fatiguing. But if you want an IEM to perform hot. This is the one. Toxic Eddie 2 is a better compromise, in the sense it's got a lot of the high intensity silver signature, but it's doled out more smoothly. Nice mids.

How is ISN AG8 compared to Toxic pure silver cables?

 

[DingDongMonster]

Oh yeah. The Eddie 2 is tuned by a guy called Eddie Huang. A Taiwanese guy in Singapore. A pretty well known person in the mandarin speaking audio world. He walks around with a Lotoo Mjolnir all the time. You can't miss him. You can find out more about him below.

https://eddie0817.wordpress.com/

https://www.facebook.com/Eddieshifiaudioworld

 

[Yefry]

I recommend Toxic Silver Widow V3. Mad dynamics and extensions. Everything in spades, can get fatiguing. But if you want an IEM to perform hot. This is the one. Toxic Eddie 2 is a better compromise, in the sense it's got a lot of the high intensity silver signature, but it's doled out more smoothly. Nice mids.

https://toxic-cables.co.uk/product/silver-widow-22-v3-occ-silver-litz-earphone-cable/

https://toxic-cables.co.uk/product/eddie-2/

There is also a Silver Poison which performs pretty well and it's a bit cheaper. I would personally prefer the Eddie 2 as a starter.

https://toxic-cables.co.uk/product/silver-poison-occ-cryo-silver-earphone-cable/

I have the silver widow v3 and the silver poison. I will add an Eddie 2 in the future. There are other brands and better ones. Which of course equals more costly. I recommend Toxic as their stuff is very good and it's got brand recognition. If it turns out I am all hot air and no substance. You can sell it away easily with a very small first owner tax.



You heard the RN6 exactly as I did. Glad I was not hallucinating from too much coffee. LOL

Thanks for the response, I have looked at the Toxic Cables for a long time, they seem excellent but they still have a fairly high price and a long wait, at the moment my quality-price reference is still CEMA but I will surely try the toxic cables one day

Regarding RN6, we are not the only ones, I have found some other people in the same situation and they perceive it in a similar way, in the end the world of audio is a bit crazy, each one interprets it differently

 

[DingDongMonster]

How is ISN AG8 compared to Toxic pure silver cables?

Sorry never tried the ISN. I tested a few cheaper Aliexpress silver cables. None of them turned out any good. I stopped and the cheapest I recommend with confidence is from Toxic. I tried it all. They are all various levels of good, better, and best.

2 random ones I have. Both of them sound bad.

 

[DingDongMonster]

Thanks for the response, I have looked at the Toxic Cables for a long time, they seem excellent but they still have a fairly high price and a long wait, at the moment my quality-price reference is still CEMA but I will surely try the toxic cables one day

Regarding RN6, we are not the only ones, I have found some other people in the same situation and they perceive it in a similar way, in the end the world of audio is a bit crazy, each one interprets it differently

It's a luxury. Aetha on an SPC will make most people very happy for a long time. When they are ready to level up. Just change the cable. Best deal ever.