It depends on what you've been used to. The Timeless is mildly V-shaped with energetic mids when needed and a wonderful dynamic range across the spectrum IMO.
Darn I was worried about that. It feels like it'd do better with an amp. I was hoping I could just use them with cheap bt hooks. To me sound is more of a feeling I get, and I don't get that feeling with the vocals, especially female vocals, as I do with my shure srh840s or even galaxy pros sometimes. These are better overall. They are technically so good, but it can lead to feeling sterile to me maybe because of the vocals thing.
Experiment with the tips a bit. I can get ear-piercing treble, no bass, gut-shaking bass or utter perfection, depending on which tips I use.
True, once you get rid of the treble brightness the mids get just as good as any good planar or electrostat headphone. These may not have the same forwardness in the midrange as dynamic transducers though, because planars in general sound different (some people talk about a wall of sound effect).
What I've found so far is they really need some sort of amplification, depending what your source is. My main phone, Samsung Z fold3, doesn't have enough kick to drive the 7hz. The mids sound thin and weak. My Hiby R6 Pro is much better but doesn't match my Emotiva A2M amp for sound quality with the Hiby as the source.
Do you mean that with the amp & the R6 the mids presentation is improved in comparison with the R6 alone?
Seemed to.
I'll have to agree on this. I did spend some time comparing my set of Timeless with my much-loved Mojo/SE846 combination. While the Shures definitely have more energetic vocals and overall midrange presence the Timeless did not sound laid off while directly A/Bing them from the same source. And I think this says a lot about their midrange rendering. The funny thing about Timeless is how a segment of the frequency range can get from completely silent to really loud so effortlessly due to their incredible dynamic range, and this includes the midrange. And while the SE846 have more forward vocals especially around the upper midrange region this affects negatively their soundstage capacities something that the Timeless does better. On the other hand, the Shures have a little bit better imaging on careful scrutiny even though the Timeless is more articulate in complex tacks I think.
Tomm11 how do you compare the Timeless to the Zen in terms of detail retrieval?
I'd have to give that some thought. Probably have to do some critical listening between the 2. Off the top of my head, Zen is really pretty good in the mids but treble rolls off early. Definitely have to give it to Timeless up top but maybe Zen through the mids. Zens magic is in it's dynamics. I really dig Zen.
